Dear friends and colleagues,
You might be interested by the (here attached) vision
of the president of the French CNRS
about what science can bring to:
"fighting (the phenomena which lead to Paris killings)
while avoiding blindness specific to terrors and its promoters".
All the best,
2015-11-18 13:03 GMT+01:00 Paul Bourgine <[log in to unmask]>:
> Dear Wander, dear all,
>
> I am also supporting the argument of Mario with Ozge. Our democraties were
> not at all perfect inside as well as outside, internally and historically.
> Humans needs more justice inside each country as well as internationally
> between countries, in one word "at all levels". In this direction it is
> possible to complete the first sentence:
>
> *A flourishing global culture requires tolerance and the embracing of
>> diversity as important principles. -> **A flourishing global culture
>> requires **at all levels** tolerance, equity of chance, justice and the
>> embracing of diversity as the most important principles*
>>
>
> I am happy to support the statement, independently of any rewriting.
>
> Best regards,
> Paul
>
> Le 18 nov. 2015 à 11:23, Tabitha Kabora <[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>> a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> I wholeheartedly support the statement on behalf of our community and will
> share it with others on social media. The discussions brought up here
> highlight the need to assess the root causes of these forms of
> radicalization and violence and I look forward to working to bridge this
> knowledge gap and enhance our understanding for the benefit of humanity.
>
> Regards,
> Tabitha Kabora.
>
> On 18 November 2015 at 06:57, Kai Neumann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Nastaran
>>
>> Isn't that what I have started with the collaborative qualitative cause
>> and effect models I have shared earlier?
>> As this challenge is defined by many variables I find it hard to think of
>> an ABM to tackle it, isn't it?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Kai
>>
>> Kai Neumann
>> I model - therefore iM (www.iMODELER.net <http://www.imodeler.net/>)
>> [log in to unmask]
>> Tel: 0700 524 6386266
>> Skype: emmasilsa
>> (from a mobile device - in case there are mistakes in my text ...;-)
>>
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 4:57 AM, Nastaran Keshavarz Mohammadi <
>> [log in to unmask]
>> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Dear All,
>> Thanks a lot for the initiative. I believe scientists, specially systems
>> scientist should contribute more in solving social complex issues.
>> I would like, as complexity concepts suggest, considering multiple agents
>> of the system which produces and support terrorist systems. It would be
>> very simplistic to think, ISIS is a religious system! I think it is rather
>> a political party produced by politicians for political and economical
>> goals. Let’s not forget, religions always have been and will be strong
>> weapons in hands of those in power!
>> I would like to raise some questions:
>> How this horrible group funds itself? Who buys their oil? Who supports
>> them? Which countries train them? Why they can still sell oil? Which bank
>> they invest in? What technology they use to advertise themselves? Is it
>> believable that intelligent agencies fail to find them or stop them!!!!
>> Also we should think why people may join them? What is the role of poverty
>> , low literacy, and social isolation as well as mental and emotional
>> disorders?
>> These are all agents and networks which should be considered. As long as
>> these groups serve few countries and their politicians, normal people
>> should pay. Wars in oil rich countries, religious conflicts and fear of
>> terrorist attacks can make money for Weapon industry, can make it
>> possible to buy illegal oil cheap, can change power systems and etc, it is
>> very complex! That is the way I see that.
>> According complexity concepts, I think good flow of accurate
>> information about beyond the scene of this group, and also sharing in
>> common and true values of all religions can help significantly.Can we do
>> any thing in this regard?
>> I wish peace and love for all
>> Best Regards
>> Nastaran
>> ................................
>> Dr Nastaran Keshavarz Mohammadi
>> PhD, Health Promotion
>>
>> Editorial Board Member, Health Promotion International
>>
>> School of Public Health
>> Shahid Beheshti University of Medical Sciences
>>
>> Skype ID: nastaran.keshavarz
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:02 PM, Emile Chappin - TBM <
>> [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Wander,
>> Wholeheartedly support your statement!
>> Cheers, Emile
>>
>> ---
>> Dr.ir. Émile J.L. Chappin
>> Assistant professor, Delft University of Technology
>> <http://www.eeni.tbm.tudelft.nl/>
>> Senior research fellow, Wuppertal Institute for Climate, Environment and
>> Energy <http://wupperinst.org/>
>> [log in to unmask], http://chappin.com/emile
>> Mobile: +31 61 787 6731
>>
>> *Delft:*
>> Visiting Address: Room a3.300, Jaffalaan 5, Delft, the Netherlands
>> Postal Address: P.O. Box 5015, 2600 GA, Delft, the Netherlands
>> Office: +31 15 278 3410, Fax: +31 15 278 3422
>>
>> *Wuppertal:*
>> Visiting Address: Room 5.19, Döppersberg 19, 42103 Wuppertal, Germany
>> Office: +49 2022 492 312, Fax: +49 202 2492 198
>>
>> *From:* News and discussion about computer simulation in the social
>> sciences [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jager, Wander
>> *Sent:* 14 November 2015 20:00
>> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject:* [SIMSOC] Statement on behalf of our community on the Paris
>> attacks
>>
>> Dear friends
>>
>> Usually we publish our ideas in scientific journals, but considering the
>> impact of the terrorist attacks on innocent citizens on our society, the
>> attack on Paris as the most recent gruesome act, I think that we, being
>> scientists addressing the dynamics of society, have a responsibility to
>> address the general public more directly. A polarisation of society,
>> resulting in conflict, seems to be the aim of these fear-inducing attacks.
>> The more society at large is aware of this likely aim, the more a liberal
>> and tolerant culture might be resilient to such attacks.
>>
>> I propose publishing a statement on behalf of our scientific community.
>> The following tekst is a sightly adapted post I made on Facebook. It might
>> serve as a start for a joint message, which should have tolerance
>> and openness as key values for a global culture to strive for.
>>
>> *A flourishing global culture requires tolerance and the embracing of
>> diversity as important principles. The IS attacks on innocent citizens
>> appear to be aimed at undermining this tolerant culture by fuelling a
>> polarisation process, setting up groups of people against each other.
>> Rather than responding with violence, leading to a spiralling down to a
>> repressive state, as scientists we believe that we should support critical
>> thinking in areas dominated by dogmatic and repressive powers. We prefer
>> drones offering internet access over drones packed with with explosives.
>> Better a bombardment with laptops than with rockets. Mind that lead is
>> better used for printing than for bullets!*
>>
>> If you support this message just let me know, and if you have some
>> suggestions for improving the tekst and for bringing this message out your
>> input is valued very much.
>>
>> I hope to share a final tekst on Monday, which I want to circulate on
>> this list.
>>
>> Warm regards from concerned citizen.
>>
>> Wander Jager
>>
>>
>> --
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>> University College Groningen
>> Phone +31 (0)6 361 84 622
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>>
>>
>>
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