Good Work!  I support this statement.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Christophe LE PAGE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear all,


I am like Bruno : this initiative and the related discussion make me feel  good, so of course I’m ok to be associated to the statement.

Thank you all.


Christophe Le Page


De : News and discussion about computer simulation in the social sciences [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part de Bonte Bruno
Envoyé : lundi 16 novembre 2015 12:03
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Objet : Re: [SIMSOC] Statement on behalf of our community on the Paris attacks


Hi to all,


I would be glad to be associated to this statement and I thank all of you for the initiative and comments.


Warm regards,

Bruno Bonté



De: "Wander Jager" <[log in to unmask]>
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Envoyé: Lundi 16 Novembre 2015 14:14:35
Objet: Re: [SIMSOC] Statement on behalf of our community on the Paris attacks


Dear friends


Thanks for the mail bombardment! Thanks to your positive comments I rewrote the statement. Please read, and if you are not yet on the list of people subscribing this statement (or if you want to be removed) let me know as soon as possible.


A statement on behalf of scientists and scholars cooperating in the global SIMSOC network.


A flourishing global culture is based on the human values of love, respect and tolerance. It requires an eagerness to embrace diversity, and when values conflict, informed tolerance as important principles. Terrorist attacks have destroyed the lives of thousands of innocent citizens around the world, undermining a tolerant culture by fuelling a polarization process, setting up groups of people against each other. Responding with fear and violence would undermine these values and ultimately lead to repressive governance structures. Instead, we want to support the development of critical thinking worldwide, particularly in areas of the world that are dominated by dogmatic and repressive powers. We believe that we should support investments in education and critical thinking, food, health, technology, research, work, peace, and social justice rather than invested in violence and death. We prefer drones offering Internet access to drones packed with explosives. Better dropping laptops than bombs. Mind that lead is better used for printing than for bullets!


Alexis Drogoul

Alison Heppenstall

Andreas Ernst

Antonella Ianni

Arend Ligtenberg

Borit Melania

Cesar Garcia-Diaz

Cesareo Hernandez

Chih-Chun Chen

Christophe Sibertin-Blanc

Cinzia Tegoni

Corinna Eisenbroich

Diana Mangalagiu

Fabio Correa

Frederik Schaff

Geeske Scholz

Gert Jan Hofstede

Helder Coelho

Julie Dugdale

Klaus G. Troitzsch

Klaus Jaffe

Leonardo G. Rodríguez Zoya

Mario Paolucci

Matteo Morini

Mauricio Salgado

Michael MÖhring

Norman Johnson

Olivier Barreteau

Oswaldo Téran

Patrick Seidler

Pietro Terna

Rocco Paolillo

Robert Marks

Rosaria Conte

Ruben Flores

Scott Moss

Sylvie Huet

Sjoukje Osinga

Torsten Heinrich

Tuncer Ören

Virginia Dignum

Wander Jager

Wilfred Geerlings



I plan to post this on the Facebook page of the Groningen center for Social Complexity Studies, but to have some impact I rely on us all to share wherever we can...


Warm regards


Wander Jager




On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Scott Moss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear all,


Revulsion as a response to terrorist attacks is in large measure personal but also reinforced and deepened by sharing our feelings.  I believe that the importance of this sort of socially enhanced response is a lesson from agent-based social modelling of various kinds.  Perhaps the very long and growing thread initiated by Wander’s posting is further evidence of the empirical importance this sort of social process.


Adding our own expressions of moral outrage can certainly be seen as a moral obligation.  A common statement, or even individual statements, will add to the volume of such expressions but do not seem to me to be likely to change the tactics of IS or other terrorists.  I would not be surprised if our statement failed to attract any special notice.  Perhaps there is an analogy here with voting: no one much notices how each of us votes but the strength of the polity is more sound as more of us do vote.  But in addition to voting, we are also able to apply our skills to the analysis and perhaps the improvement of society.


If we want to make a contribution based on our scientific skills, I suggest that an appropriate way forward is to apply those skills to a problem where we have some chance of making a direct impact by informing public policies — whether tactical, strategic or both.  Perhaps a coordinated attack on specific issues where our understanding is unclear would be more useful.  Some issues suggest themselves readily: recruitment to terrorist organisations or the social context in which radicalism thrives are two that come immediately to mind.


I suggest that, in addition to any statement of the sort suggested by Wander, that we agree on a small working party to receive suggestions for issues where we can make a contribution and to refine those questions to a few clear challenges to be presented to the wider social simulation community.  We could both suggest to funding bodies that these challenges become the basis of funding calls and also devote our own resources to addressing these challenges.  Indeed, by devoting our own resources to such activities we would be (and be seen to be) less self-serving because we would be willing to make some sacrifices for the public good.  The whole process would also then avoid the lengthy delays involved in normal funding processes.


Workshops and webinars are fine but they need to be structured.  The challenges suggested by such a working party would provide the basis for such structuring.


 As Wander started this discussion and has considerable experience in projects and organisation, I suggest specifically that he be asked to put together an appropriate working party and to organise such a constructive process.





On 14 Nov 2015, at 19:00, Jager, Wander <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


Dear friends


Usually we publish our ideas in scientific journals, but considering the impact of the terrorist attacks on innocent citizens on our society, the attack on Paris as the most recent gruesome act, I think that we, being scientists addressing the dynamics of society, have a responsibility to address the general public more directly. A polarisation of society, resulting in conflict, seems to be the aim of these fear-inducing attacks. The more society at large is aware of this likely aim, the more a liberal and tolerant culture might be resilient to such attacks.


I propose publishing a statement on behalf of our scientific community. The following tekst is a sightly adapted post I made on Facebook. It might serve as a start for a joint message, which should have tolerance and openness as key values for a global culture to strive for.


A flourishing global culture requires tolerance and the embracing of diversity as important principles. The IS attacks on innocent citizens appear to be aimed at undermining this tolerant culture by fuelling a polarisation process, setting up groups of people against each other. Rather than responding with violence, leading to a spiralling down to a repressive state, as scientists we believe that we should support critical thinking in areas dominated by dogmatic and repressive powers. We prefer drones offering internet access over drones packed with with explosives. Better a bombardment with laptops than with rockets. Mind that lead is better used for printing than for bullets!


 If you support this message just let me know, and if you have some suggestions for improving the tekst and for bringing this message out your input is valued very much.

I hope to share a final tekst on Monday, which I want to circulate on this list.

Warm regards from concerned citizen.

Wander Jager




Groningen Center for Social Complexity Studies

University College Groningen

Phone +31 (0)6 361 84 622

Twitter: @GCSCS_RuG

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Professor Scott Moss


The Wash

Chapel en le Frith

High Peak

SK23 0QW

United Kingdom





Groningen Center for Social Complexity Studies

University College Groningen

Phone +31 (0)6 361 84 622

Twitter: @GCSCS_RuG

Facebook: Groningen Center for Social Complexity Studies