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It’s worth following the National Trust Libraries page on Facebook for some nice pictures of signatures – sometimes they ask for help deciphering them. And lots of nice pictures of libraries and books too! https://www.facebook.com/groups/104727856245306/ Katie Flanagan BA(Hons), MA, MCLIP Special Collections Librarian T +44 (0)1895 266139 From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karen Pierce Sent: 16 April 2015 13:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Submission of Record 2 Thanks for this, it looks good! Karen From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Erika Delbecque Sent: 16 April 2015 12:57 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Submission of Record 2 Regarding handwriting: the National Archives' online paleography course covering handwriting between 1500 and 1800 looks very useful. It has been on my to do list for some time! http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/ Erika On 16/04/2015 11:56, Karen Pierce wrote: I think I tend to struggle with handwriting and signatures because I don’t do rare book cataloguing full time. I think (I would hope?) that it would get a bit easier as I would be used to seeing different handwriting more often. I have covered handwriting briefly in the course I took – but I think if I ever did this full time I would want to take a course on just the handwriting so I could really get it into my head – I would probably have more notes next to me. Generally whenever we get a signature on a book we ask the opinion of anyone else in the office – because sometimes someone else seems to see what you don’t straight away! Once it is pointed out it becomes obvious. I looked at your suggestion Iris, and I could see it as much as I could see my own – I just wasn’t quite sure about either of our suggestions! Karen From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Iris Sent: 16 April 2015 11:42 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Submission of Record 2 Thanks, Karen. I was struggling with that inscription, too. Does anybody have any other suggestions for the inscription? ------------------------------------------------------ Iris O'Brien Early Printed Collections Cataloguing and Processing Manager The British Library St Pancras 96 Euston Road London NW1 2DB Tel.: +44 (0)20 7412 7731 E-mail: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: Karen Pierce [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 16 April 2015 11:35 To: O'Brien, Iris Subject: RE: [CIG-E-FORUM] Submission of Record 2 Here is my record 2. I’m not very good on handwriting, so I have probably got the signature name wrong! Karen From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of O'Brien, Iris Sent: 16 April 2015 10:52 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Submission of Record 2 Please, start sending in your record 2 examples now but feel free to keep on commenting on record 1. If you have any other practical cataloguing questions, please, submit them for discussion. Iris ------------------------------------------------------ Iris O'Brien Early Printed Collections Cataloguing and Processing Manager The British Library St Pancras 96 Euston Road London NW1 2DB Tel.: +44 (0)20 7412 7731 E-mail: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Iris Sent: 16 April 2015 10:40 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Discussion of Record 1 I think the records look pretty similar. Those of you who don’t have a lot of rare books cataloguing experience, is there anything in the records that looks unusual to you? Or do you have any other questions or comments? When I created my record I thought for this exercise I would include citations/references in the 510 in the format of the latest edition of the Standard Citation Forms for Rare Materials Cataloging (available free online: http://rbms.info/scf/ ) to see what it was like even though we actually still follow the previous version within the ESTC. What do you think? It’s probably clearer for users not necessarily familiar with these reference works as such but I must say it does take longer to input. ------------------------------------------------------ Iris O'Brien Early Printed Collections Cataloguing and Processing Manager The British Library St Pancras 96 Euston Road London NW1 2DB Tel.: +44 (0)20 7412 7731 E-mail: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> ****************************************************************************************************************** Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk<http://www.bl.uk/> The British Library’s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html<http://www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html> Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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