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Very sneery then sad 
P without a sneer 

-----Original Message-----
From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
Sent: 29 January 2015 11:00
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: FW: animals

*No, sneered. Why is this in bold? Oh well* *In so far as - italics? - this
is based on a real incident; and it is sort of, I assure you that the word
is sneered. * *Others have smiled in similar circumstances; but not she*
*Perhaps those who are truly lovers would not; but this was one called
lover. Not necessarily the same*

*L*


On 29 January 2015 at 11:12, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Smiled?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick McManus [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 29 January 2015 10:12
> To: 'Poetryetc: poetry and poetics'
> Subject: RE: animals
>
> Do lovers sneer? Maybe another word I tentatively wonder pitied?
> Disdained??
> dunno
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> On Behalf Of Bill Wootton
> Sent: 29 January 2015 07:33
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: animals
>
> 'danked' as in unpleasantly moistened, I take it, L. Like it. Reminds 
> me, the poem I mean, of something my wife said to me this morning, 
> dismissing those who would claim that suffering in humans ennobles. If 
> their God exists, would He say that it is good for animals? Or if, she 
> went on, if He is omnipotent, why so design humans? Could have come up 
> with a better model.
>
> B
>
>
> > On 28 Jan 2015, at 11:58 pm, Lawrence Upton 
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I said once, to myself
> >
> > or perhaps to my lover,
> >
> > that being close to animals
> >
> > will make us more human:
> >
> >
> >
> > she sneered at me
> >
> > for speaking to a donkey - conversationally -
> >
> > on our way to eat,
> >
> > my hands danked by donkey tongue...
> >
> >
> >
> > it is two way, not magic -
> >
> > a rabbit's foot does nothing
> >
> > but lames the rabbit --
> >
> >
> >
> > seek out animals
> >
> > like one who lost them --
> >
> > non-speakers
> >
>