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Its great working in a multi-disciplinary team but other members of that team do not necessarily understand our professional challenges. When I was a fairly newly qualified OHN, and a lone practitioner, I would have found it so helpful to have an OHN to provide opportunities for professional supervision that, coupled with a resource like JISC would have been such an excellent form of support. Its great working in a multi-disciplinary team but non OHN members of that team do not always understand our professional boundaries. Anne On 20/01/2015 15:55, "obianuju ekwueme" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thanks immensely list for your contributions. > Yes Anne, I work with Occupational Health Physicians and other professionals > Our team is large including Health and Safety Officers, Physiotherapists, > Counselors, etc. > Have a good evening > Virginia > > > Oby V. Ekwueme > Tel: 07507600340 > Email; [log in to unmask] > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Karen Coomer <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: >> I agree with Alison on this one. In my experience HR normally know about a >> Œdifficult spouse¹ and have in numerous cases I have dealt with have told >> them to wait in the waiting room. If they do accompany them I have a standard >> introductory speech which includes me asking them to leave if I feel it is >> affecting my ability to do an OH assessment, it is said nicely but firmly and >> I seldom have a problem. >> >> Karen >> >> >> >> >> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf >> Of Allison Caine >> Sent: 19 January 2015 17:54 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Chaperones >> >> >> >> There is no reason for the spouse to accompany her husband. This is an >> employment situation and not a hospital/GP appointment. >> >> There is no right to have a companion unless the individual has special needs >> or you think their presence may give added valuable information for you to >> reach an informed decision. >> >> You need to inform HR that, as this is not a discipline matter he does not >> require accompanying. Most HR I work with would discuss this with the >> employee directly and refuse the spouses presence without you having to deal >> with it, as her behaviour is unacceptable. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> Allison Caine >> Director OHBM Ltd >> Direct Phone/Fax: 01625 268609 <tel:01625%20268609> >> Mobile: 07733 125558 <tel:07733%20125558> >> Email: [log in to unmask] >> Website: www.ohbm.co.uk <http://www.ohbm.co.uk/> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:15, Irene Douse <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> Ask her to stay in the waiting area. He may well be happy for you to make >>> that call. If he wants her there tell her that her comments cannot be taken >>> into account. Carry on with your RTW plan and pass this to management. Add >>> that the spouse disagrees and feels that ....... However the person feels >>> that....... it is up to management then. Remind them that the GP fit note is >>> advisory only and subject to Occupational Health Advice. >>> >>> Irene >>> >>> >>> >>> From: obianuju ekwueme <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 4:41 PM >>> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Chaperones >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a client whose spouse follows to see me in the clinic. >>> >>> The employee tells me how he feels and the spouse tries to refute it. >>> >>> For instance he feels much better and wants to return back to work as a >>> teacher. I could see from my previous consultation that he looks much better >>> having implemented what we discussed. He confirmed to me that he feels much >>> better and wants to return back to work as soon as possible. I was about to >>> initiate a return to work program when the spouse who left her bag in the >>> consulting room to go to toilet, came out of the toilet, came into the >>> clinic heard what we were discussing and said 'no' that the GP have >>> just given him another four weeks sick note. I tried to explain the >>> position of the GP sick note and myself and she wants to argue. I observe >>> that the same thing happened the last time I saw this gentle man >>> >>> Should I stop his spouse accompanying him to my clinics? >>> >>> She tends to want to make decisions for this gentleman who is compos mentis >>> and not a child. >>> >>> Where does chaperones stand in occupational health consultation? >>> >>> Medical defense organisation states that relations should not act as >>> cheperones >>> >>> So can an occupational health nurse ask a disruptive relation to leave the >>> consulting room >>> I tried to check the NMC site for guidance but it referred me to GMC good >>> medical practice explanatory guidance >>> <http://www.nmc-uk.org/Documents/Consultations/NMC-responses/2012/NMC-respon >>> se-GMC-good-medical-practice-consultation-%20June2012.pdf> which have not >>> mentioned anything about occupational health.consultation. >>> >>> I await your contribution. You can answer me off list if it is more >>> convenient. Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> Virginia. 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