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on the ongoing question of digital arts coverage in the media, and the earlier thread about the digital art hack at the Tate, here's another article for consideration, in which Ruth MacKenzie is quoted rather more favourably (as Hannah was good to point out)...

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jun/16/hack-the-space-tate-modern

CRUMB's PhD student, Victoria Bradbury, who is quoted in the article, will no doubt have some interesting findings to report on her participation in due course,

Sarah



On 18 Jun 2014, at 16:41, marc garrett <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Hi Nicholas & all,

>So instead of operating in the suburbs, how could the list propose that it is in fact the
>art world that is suburban - with its gated community paywalls, whitecube picket fences,
>and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.

I agree with the above & Sarah’s post on the matter works for me.

Anyway — I’m too busy at the moment with our ‘provincial’ exhibition. A collaboration with The Arts Catalyst “SEFT-1 Abandoned Railways Exploration Probe: Modern Ruins 1:220 — Ivan Puig and Andrés Padilla Domene” http://go.shr.lc/1jy7AJo

It was featured in the Guardian last week by Jonathan jones ‘The ruin-hunters who drove a car down Mexico's forgotten railways’ http://go.shr.lc/1qwbV4K

And will be featured on the BBC news on Friday…

Oh wait! I get it, it’s seen as ‘provincial’ because the work successfully reaches people, beyond their art establishment silos. Of course ;-)

bye for now.

marc


> Sarah + all:
>
> I actually think that there's some stuff worth engaging in this...
>
> I haven't read Joanne's book, so I can't speak to the ways in which this
> piece fails as a review, but this closing statement definitely sent a
> shiver down my browser:
>
> "The problem with the book, as with internet art, is that no one has
> recognised the aesthetic problems of provincial conversation. Work by
> artists who turn inward to have hushed talks with a small coterie about
> local problems will have little effect on culture at large. McLuhan’s
> global village may have its merits, but the cultural celebration of
> marginalism in art is not one of them."
>
> The reactionary in me would outright disagree with this, but I did have a
> moment of thinking bout who does address the aesthetic problems of the
> "provincial conversation" of internet art. So maybe as a way of thinking
> about outright disagreeing with Pac Pobric, the list might suggest some
> compelling counters?
>
> To that end, the metric of cultural relevance as proposed in this article
> is squarely situated in archaic models of art presentation/distribution (I
> think that a lot of us can agree on that). So instead of operating in the
> suburbs, how could the list propose that it is in fact the art world that
> is suburban - with its gated community paywalls, whitecube picket fences,
> and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.
>
> very best
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Kelani Nichole <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> wrote:
>
>> He is based in Brooklyn, no worries tho y'all I already invited him to our
>> next opening at TRANSFER – Claudia Maté on July 12 :D
>>
>>
>> Bests,
>> Kelani Nichole
>>
>> Curatorial Director, TRANSFER
>> http://transfer.gallery
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM, marc garrett <
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow!
>>>
>>> Where do they find these people?
>>>
>>> marc
>>>
>>>  Hi CRUMBs
>>>> thought you might be interested to read this article about internet art,
>>>> which is a thin review of the book Art and the Internet, Joanne McNeil
>> et
>>>> al, Black Dog Publishing.
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Internet-art-fails-to-click/32983
>>>>
>>>> It suggests that internet art takes place in the suburbs, that it is
>>>> provincial.
>>>> Use it as yet another rallying cry to improve the art history of this
>>>> field of practice.
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Sarah Cook
>>>> Reader / Dundee Fellow
>>>> Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
>>>> University of Dundee
>>>> 13 Perth Road DD1 4HT
>>>>
>>>> phone: 01382 385247
>>>> email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The University of Dundee is a registered Scottish Charity, No: SC015096
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
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>
>
>


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A living - breathing - thriving networked neighbourhood -
proud of free culture - claiming it with others ;)

Other reviews,articles,interviews
http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php

Furtherfield – online arts community, platforms for creating, viewing,
discussing and learning about experimental practices at the
intersections of art, technology and social change.
http://www.furtherfield.org

Furtherfield Gallery – Finsbury Park (London).
http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery

Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community.
http://www.netbehaviour.org

http://identi.ca/furtherfield
http://twitter.com/furtherfield

===

Dr. Sarah Cook
Reader / Dundee Fellow
Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
University of Dundee
13 Perth Road DD1 4HT

phone: 01382 385247
email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>





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