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Dear all, You'll probably see this as tangential, but I've just aligned all our administrative geodata with the OS opendata portal's system using Sparql to pull out all the entities. (Hasn't stopped our staff from being confused though) This allows me to use linked data to enhance our site. So for Stafford for instance, we have the attached id: http://data.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/doc/7000000000014892 and we can then assign down to ward level such as Rowley (http://data.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/doc/7000000000014943). We can then get boundary data directly from mapit.mysociety.org (or our own install of this) using the GSS code for example: Stafford: http://mapit.mysociety.org/area/2436.html which can render as https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=http://mapit.mysociety.org/area/2436.kml And after that, you can do all sort of lookups from the OS IDs. Regards Dan From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster Sent: 30 April 2014 15:16 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: County/District/Parish data Now I look at our OS boundary line data, it does include the NPAs for completeness - but, as they don't exist as parishes, they don't have names. Chris Webster Somerset Historic Environment Record Somerset Heritage Centre Brunel Way Taunton TA2 6SF 01823 347434 Online HER at www.somerset.gov.uk/her<http://www.somerset.gov.uk/her> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of EDWARDS, Robert (Environment) Sent: 30 April 2014 15:07 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: County/District/Parish data Which in Cheshire constituted in excess of c.200 parishes retained and whose parish councils, despite further LGR in 1998 & 2009, still act, along with town councils, as the lowest tier of local gov't in the ceremonial County. I'm not sure they're read to be consigned to history yet :) Rob Edwards Historic Environment Records Officer Cheshire Archaeology Planning Advisory Service Tel: 01244 973667 Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Location: The Forum, Chester, Cheshire, CH1 2HS. From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of GREG CAMPBELL Sent: 30 April 2014 14:43 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: County/District/Parish data Dear HER volken: It looks like The Local Government Act 1972 caused all parishes that lay within the districts and boroughs created by the Act to cease to exist on April Fool's Day 1974 (Part I, Section 1, paragr (10)). Only rural parishes and some other specified parishes (Part I, Section 1, paragr (6)) survived, to sit at the second tier of local government (along with districts and boroughs) below county. So the concept of parish as the lowest administrative unit of land, below town, district or borough, is historic. Greg Campbell The Naïve Chemist From: Chris Wardle <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2014, 14:07 Subject: Re: County/District/Parish data The 'only a third of English people' bit of your question is fairly simple. Most English people live in larger towns and cities. Most of these don't have parishes or are only parts of them have parishes. On an area basis the question is more complex! -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Chris Webster Sent: 30 April 2014 13:53 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: County/District/Parish data At the Heritage Gateway providers meeting yesterday there was more discussion about the omission of some places (Stafford was mentioned as one example) that don't appear in the drop-down menus. This is apparently because they don't appear in the OS data set as parishes. We suggested that 'pretend' parishes should be added to the list, which is what we and some other HERs already do when faced with this issue. But, doing a bit more research (ok, Wikipedia) I discover that there are lots of places that are unparished but do appear in the OS/EH list! The government website suggests that only a third of English people have a parish council which appears to confirm the level of non-parishing suggested by the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unparished_area). So what is going on? Chris Webster Somerset Historic Environment Record Somerset Heritage Centre Brunel Way Taunton TA2 6SF 01823 347434 Online HER at www.somerset.gov.uk/her<http://www.somerset.gov.uk/her> This email, and any attachments is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. 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