I was thinking about this a while back and wondered whether performance shouldn't include the performance of code and algorithms that we can't see ... I took convolution as a starting point. http://www.performanceparadigm.net/journal/issue-9/articles/convolving-signals-thinking-the-performance-of-computational-processes-andrew-murphie/ all the best, andrew On 17 March 2014 22:18, Jack Stenner <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:52 AM, roger malina <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > my own take on this- and there is a huge literature and debate out > there-is > > that there is no way to define a conceptually clear boundary between > living and > > non living- that there are variations in degree and not in kind of > > various characteristics- and systems that > > have more of these characteristics exhibit more complex living behaviours > > > > I would agree, and this is the reason I believe thinking about behavior > instead of process is important. If we think process, it's easy to think of > code as "other," as purely machinic, and therefore something non-human > (even inhuman). If we think behavior, we are less susceptible in that we > think performance and outcomes. It's the "dog ate my homework!" phenomenon. > By "othering" technology we can absolve ourselves and shift responsibility. > It's an unnecessary binarization of a more complex relationship. As you > say, a difference of "degree, and not in kind." This is where, I think, > Bernard Stiegler's thoughts are worthwhile. Technology is a prosthetic, > allowing for the "inorganic organization of memory," but we are > simultaneously the "neuronal" support for technology. I think Andrés > Vaccari summarizes the paradox well: "The essence of the human, it seems, > is the technical; which is paradoxically the other of the human: the > non-human, the manufactured, unnatural, artificial; the inhuman even." > --The machine is simultaneously our essence. > http://www.transformationsjournal.org/journal/issue_17/article_08.shtml > > I have little doubt that simulations will one day show thought and affect. > I would think that's devastatingly scary for those who see machines purely > as other, and perhaps less so for those who see them as essentially "us." > > So, in response to Victoria's question, yes. To perform is not the sole > province of humans, IMO. > > Jack > > > On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:52 AM, roger malina <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Ken victoria > > > > I would like to rebound on the question 'can non humans perform' with a > broader > > question 'is performance a characteristic of living organisms" and > differ a bit > > > > my own take on this- and there is a huge literature and debate out > there-is > > that there is no way to define a conceptually clear boundary between > living and > > non living- that there are variations in degree and not in kind of > > various characteristics- and systems that > > have more of these characteristics exhibit more complex living > behaviours - i > > would cite some of stuart kauffman's writing > > > > ( note the boundary between human and non-human is clearer) > > > > which gets me to code as performance > > > > as many have written= the area computer based simulation has become > > a very important strategy in science- where simulations often acquire the > > status of hypotheses or even theory ( eg climate change, cosmology)- > > and assumes a basic > > idea that the universe is 'computable" > > > > in this frame- i want to argue that the codes of simulations do 'perform' > > and of course the whole field of artificial life art explores this ( the > VIDA > > competition is 15 years old this year- a teenager ! > > http://www.fundacion.telefonica.com/es/arte_cultura/vida/index.htm ) > > > > ken argues: > > It is my view that thought and affect are elements of performance. > > For this reason, my take on the issue is machines or inanimate artefacts > > cannot perform, though we can program them to engage in activities > > that we may construe as performance. > > > > > > with the argument that 'thought and affect' are elements of performance > and that > > code cannot have these properties > > > > I wonder ! some of the personal robots that are being developed i > > would think are beginning > > to show 'affect' with personalised relationships with one particular > > human and some simulation > > systems are at least 'self reflexive' in a third order cybernetics sense > > > > david parry has an article on the ethics of code > > > > http://www.outsidethetext.com/articles/EthicsofCode.pdf > > > > which explores some of the points > > > > he states: > > Clearly there is some slippage and overlap in terms here. For, from one > angle > > narrative is just one aspect of simulation. A dramatic re-enactment > > or a staged > > play is meant to simulate an event that is not present. From this > perspective, > > narrative is but a subset of simulation. But it is equally important > > to distinguish > > between these two representational modes, especially given the particular > > prevalence simulations are taking in our digital world. The view that > the world > > is simulatable given enough computational power is a world metaphor which > > is rapidly replacing the notion that one learns of the world through > narration > > and linear representation. > > > > roger malina > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:10 AM > > Subject: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Can non-human entities perform? > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > Dear Victoria, > > > > Reading your interesting post, I thought it might be interesting to > > venture a brief note on the question, "Can non-human entities > > perform?" > > > > If we look at this in philosophical terms, there are two ways to > > consider it. One is to ask what kinds of entities can think or intend. > > The other is to ask what kinds of entities possess agency, the > > capacity to decide or purposefully pursue self-willed goals. My take > > on it is that many kinds of non-human entities do these. > > > > Mary Catherine Bateson (1972: 104-120) relates an interesting story of > > a horse learning. Many who live with intelligent dogs have the sense > > that dogs can think, reason, and draw logical inferences of a kind > > that we would call "theorising" were human beings to draw these > > inferences and articulate them in written or spoken narrative. This is > > certainly the case for many non-human primates. In the same way, I'd > > argue that horses, dogs, and other non-human thinking entities can > > perform purposely in response to others or to the environment, and do > > so outside the bounds of instinctual activity. > > > > My experience of living with four dogs over a lifetime is that they > > have all been thoughtful, though I don't believe that dogs think as we > > think, and they don't usually think about the same things -- except at > > dinner time, when all animals, human and non-human focus on food. It > > is difficult to say how much or how often dogs think about themselves, > > though I observe that dogs seem to have a sense of self and some > > measure of self-awareness. All of my canine friends were playful, > > though they differed in their interest in representing thinking or > > play in a way that was specifically communicative or performative. > > > > Whether non-human entities can perform in the same way that humans > > perform or for the same reasons is another matter. They cannot state > > their views on this issue. > > > > It is my view that thought and affect are elements of performance. For > > this reason, my take on the issue is machines or inanimate artefacts > > cannot perform, though we can program them to engage in activities > > that we may construe as performance. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ken > > > > Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | University Distinguished Professor > > | Swinburne University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia | > > University email > > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> | Private > > email [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> | Mobile > > +61 404 830 462 | Academia Page > > http://swinburne.academia.edu/KenFriedman > > > > Guest Professor | College of Design and Innovation | Tongji University > > | Shanghai, China ||| Adjunct Professor | School of Creative Arts | > > James Cook University | Townsville, Australia > > > > References > > > > Bateson, Mary Catherine. 1972. Our Own Metaphor. A Personal Account of > > a Conference on the Effects of Conscious Purpose on Human Adaptation. > > New York: Knopf. > > > > > > - > -- "A traveller, who has lost his way, should not ask, Where am I? What he really wants to know is, Where are the other places" - Alfred North Whitehead Andrew Murphie - Associate Professor School of the Arts and Media, University of New South Wales, Sydney, Australia, 2052 Editor - The Fibreculture Journal http://fibreculturejournal.org/> web: http://www.andrewmurphie.org/ <http://dynamicmedianetwork.org/> tlf:612 93855548 fax:612 93856812 room 311H, Robert Webster Building