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Hi Hugh

Yes, that’s been one of the main reasons in support of allowing vessel types to be recorded as “monument types” – you can then use as many as you need.

Yours

Crispin

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Winfield, Hugh
Sent: 20 August 2013 12:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Maritime thesaurus term

 

Crispin et al,

 

The biggest problem I found with having the craft type in the maritime tab was that only one vessel type can be recorded. This was a problem with some of our trawler wrecks which were also minesweepers, and would potentially be a problem in cases where obsolete barges had been stripped down and used as lighters (apparently quite a common practice). It also means that you often have to decide whether to record a wreck according to it's construction or it's use; for example the Norwegian Schooner Hvitveis sank of our coast carrying coal, so I had a choice of recording it as a Schooner or a Collier whereas I would have preferred to double-index the record (possibly with a ? confidence on the Collier as I do not know if it regularly carried out this duty).

 

Hugh

Hugh Winfield | Archaeologist |
North East Lincolnshire Regeneration Partnership | Origin 1, Europarc, Grimsby, DN37 9TZ 
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower
Sent: 19 August 2013 15:43
To: Winfield, Hugh
Subject: Re: Maritime thesaurus term

Hi Sophie

In HBSMR the Maritime Craft Type thesaurus is available when recording using the Maritime tab, as Rob pointed out.

Normally this is configured to appear for records flagged as Maritime with the “Record Type”.  Please contact us off-list if you want any help with this.

 

As Rob also noted, there has been discussion as to whether it would be better to just allow the Maritime Craft Type thesaurus to be used to index Monument Types, removing this differentiation between the way we index wrecks and other monuments.   The rest of the Maritime tab would remain, for recording all the stuff that is relevant only for wrecks (cargo, port of registration, etc).

 

Best wishes

Crispin

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sophie Unger
Sent: 19 August 2013 15:31
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Subject: Re: Maritime thesaurus term

 

Hi All

 

Thanks for your responses. We have all our maritime records as wrecks but if someone comes in asking for a submarine, we have no way of differentiating them and its local knowledge of them that is being relied upon.

 

Forgive me if I am getting the wrong end of the stick, but it seems EH have a thesaurus term for submarine under Maritime Craft type but we don’t have access to it? Or is it just HBSMR users? I’m a little confused!

 

Best wishes

 

Sophie

Sophie  Unger MA AIFA

Historic Environment Record Officer
Environmental Advice Team
East Sussex County Council

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07554436473

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of NEWMAN, Martin
Sent: 19 August 2013 15:25
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Subject: Re: Maritime thesaurus term

 

The Monument Term will be wreck http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/thesaurus.asp?thes_no=1 the Maritime Craft Type is a separate thesaurus and the term from this will be submarine http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/thesaurus.asp?thes_no=143

Martin

 


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sophie Unger
Sent: 19 August 2013 15:15
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [HERFORUM] Maritime thesaurus term

Hi All

 

Me again! Quick question (and I might be being daft) but I can’t see a term for submarine and the only close term is wreck.

 

Please tell me I am missing something?

 

Thanks

 

Sophie

Sophie  Unger MA AIFA

Historic Environment Record Officer
Environmental Advice Team
East Sussex County Council

01273 336378
07554436473

 


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