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hi eric, do you have his paper on generative metaphors? I used it in my seminar and have cited it often. i just came back from berlin where some 40 people where invited to talk of the future of design research. two fascinating days in a beautiful city. cheers klaus Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:23 PM, "Erik Stolterman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Don and list > > To be honest, I might have had more than "one problem" :-) > I do appreciate your comment on why you quoted Moggridge, and I agree with > you. He deserves a tribute as a thinker that manifested a designerly way of > thinking and doing. > > As someone who has over the years read Donald Schon (and might some day > write a book about his contributions to practice and design philosophy), I > really appreciate your note on drawing. Schon examined the intricate, rich > and complex relationship between imagination (inside our minds and > thoughts) and the real (manifestations and representations in some physical > form). His thoughts on this are, in my view, still most insightful and > valuable. So, I am looking forward to read your thoughts about that topic. > > [As a side note, if someone has some unknown writings by Schon I would be > very happy to get a copy or a reference. I think I have all his books, some > which are difficult to find today, but I miss a lot of his smaller papers > and articles.] > > Erik Stolterman > http://transground.blogspot.com/ > > > *--------------------------------------------------- > Erik Stolterman* > *Professor in Informatics* > *School of Informatics and Computing* > *Indiana University, Bloomington > *http://transground.blogspot.com/ > <http://www.organizationaldesigncompetence.com/> > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Don Norman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Just a short note to thank the several of you on this list (among others) >> who have commented on my "Rethinking Design Thinking" article. >> >> Thanks, Elizabeth, for the pointer to Lucy's article entitled, hmm, >> "Rethinking Design Thinking," an article i am sorry to say, I had not known >> about. It certainly would have been helpful to me had I read it before i >> wrote my own article. >> >> And thanks, Erik, for your comments. You say "I have one problem with >> Norman's new position though." Really? Only one? Hell, I can list several >> other problems that I have (and I suspect you do too.) >> >> I agree with your critique. In writing my piece I hesitated a lot before >> trying to describe what I thought design thinking was because not only did >> my brief introduction leave out a lot that I thought to be critical, but i >> also knew that many good design thinkers would not agree with my >> overly-specific definition (and that i would probably agree with their >> disagreement). I was also concerned that my quotation from Moggridge >> would cause some to believe I was an IDEO partisan who did not admit to any >> other possible approach to design. Not true: I quoted Bill because I >> thought the quote appropriate, and also as a small tribute to his >> contributions to the practice. Still, in the end, i thought that the >> diverse readership would require some definition. >> >> I also agree that design thinking is really a framework or point of view >> that inspires critical analysis of the problem and its possible solutions. >> >> On a side note, I have long struggled to understand the roles that >> thinking, knowing, representing (via words, sketches, and models), and >> doing have on the creative process. I'm contemplating a short essay for >> this list on drawing and sketching, one that does not propose answers but >> rather lists some of the questions that need answering. Drawing is a much >> under-appreciateds tool for thought. Or perhaps, drawing is a mode of >> thought. >> >> Don >> www.jnd.org >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------