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Hi Chuck Thanks for this. I do have these references and the Howard book, however I do not have the Ortony book. You don't happen to have the chapter? Thanks Erik *--------------------------------------------------- Erik Stolterman* *Professor in Informatics* *School of Informatics and Computing* *Indiana University, Bloomington *http://transground.blogspot.com/ <http://www.organizationaldesigncompetence.com/> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Burnette < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Klaus. Erik and colleagues > > A later version of Schon's idea of Generative Metaphor is in: > > Schon, D.A., 1993, "Generative Metaphor: A Perspective on Problem Solving > in SocialPolicy", Chapter 9 in Ortony, A > Metaphor and Thought; Second Edition, Cambridge University Press. You both > probably have that on your shelf. > > Erik, In your book about Schon be sure to explore the Andrew Mellon > Foundation supported Study of Architectural Education which enabled him to > record the Quist and Petra studio teaching example he used in the > Reflective Practitioner . Julian Beinart who is named in Schon's 2nd > footnote in Chapter 3 published a similar project at Yale and I know of one > other I could probably locate.These may be the first examples of research > that got deep into the interactive communication characteristic of design > education and design processes. I was on the board of the study (the only > one not from a Northeastern School) and believe I still have the reports > (in the basement.) I will try to find them. They are very rare and were > poorly communicated. > > This isn't his greatest but you might also want to look at: > > Schon, D. A., 1990, "The Design Process", Chapter 7 in Varieties of > Thinking, essays from Harvards Philosophy of Education Center, Howard, > V.A. ed, New York, Routledge > > "In his closing sentences in his chapter, Schon writes: "Finally, although > an understanding of design based on generative metaphor and conversation > may no longer deserve to be called a "science" in Simon's sense it can > still contribute to an epistemology of professional practice. Simon's > insight into the design-like character of practice holds true, even though > the model of design as rational design does not." It remains an interesting > issue in the researcher - practitioner debate today. > > I'll try to find more. A book on Schon is definitely worthwhile. Go for it! > Chuck > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------