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I think it's fair exchange to comment even if you've not had the time to complete (all) the records yourself!

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From: Karen Pierce <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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Date: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 11:19
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Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Discussion of record 2

In our rare book cataloguing we repeat names with different designators - eg, author, illustrator, signer,
Of course our library system doesn't actually display the $e terms so currently it looks like we are a bit stupid and have repeated the name three times!

Am really enjoying the discussion, although haven't had time to do records myself so am mostly lurking.

Karen

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In cases like motion pictures where there were 2 or more different designators for the same person (ie: written and directed by Person A, and starring person A) would you then have 3 separate headings?

Certainly with my repository hat on, we have academics who have multiple 'relationships' with an item and it's difficult to capture them.

Katrina

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I think the relationship designators come into particular usefulness in records for motion pictures, where a particular person, eg Clint Eastwood, might have a role as a director or actor, depending on the film. Users are likely to want to search for one or other other, and it would be useful for them to have the ability to differentiate.

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Relationship designators - does the splitting up of people and corp.
bodies into creator/other person etc associated/contributor not already
indicate relationships to some extent?

That said, I guess it pays to be as accurate/detailed as possible in
the long run.

HelenD.



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>>> "Lee, Deborah" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> 10/24/2012 10:49 am
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I found it odd to add the punctuation in the ISBN (years of AACR2
practices die hard, I guess!!), and wonder whether our system will file
the ISBNs correctly.  I also wonder about whether we need "ISBN" at the
front of the ISBNs, as I noticed some of us have done this and some not.
In the MARC environment, would this be superseded by the field display
tag?

(Just wondering ...)

Debbie

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Helen, I think I read that during the RDA test, the instruction was to
record both dates, so that is why older records and some practices still
show this perhaps?

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