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I took the earlier volumes to be just other resources in the same
series, but unfortunately there is no series title to provide linkage.
I don't think that a MARC record offers any good place to put this
information.  A more flexible format might; but for most series there
would just be too many other titles to be worth the work.  And (for
consistency) what about future titles?

On reflection I should have included 'UK edition', both because of the
RDA rule and because it  provides identification and probably ties in
with the ISBN.  

Best wishes,
Bernadette

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-----Original Message-----
From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Williams
Sent: 25 October 2012 10:37
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 6 - discussion

Thanks Celine
That's a helpful point.  It did take me quite a while to do the e-forum
records, and I'd not stopped to think particularly about the
practicalities of extra work back in the 'real world' of cataloguing.
Like you, I'd not have added a 700 name-title entry for these in current
cataloguing. 
Helen 

-----Original Message-----
From: C.J. Carty [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of C.J. Carty
Sent: 25 October 2012 10:35
To: Williams,HK
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 6 - discussion

I didn't include them, largely because the information on the item
wasn't quite detailed enough and I didn't chase that down. I would have
thought if it were worth providing at all, then the most useful way to
provide it is in an access point or something that can actually link
people to the other item (eg what we currently give as 700 name-titles)?
But then I wouldn't add those in this kind of case now and so am
reluctant to start adding them in RDA because of all the extra work (it
would affect quite a high proportion of our material I think).

Celine


On Oct 25 2012, Helen Williams wrote:

>Thanks Jennifer
>
> 
>
>Yes, this is an interesting point. 
>
>I added the previous volumes as related works, using an unstructured 
>format
>
>Follows: Implementing digital reference services (2002) and The virtual

>reference desk (2006).  I took that information from the back cover, 
>and wasn't sure whether I'd have gone to that trouble were I 
>cataloguing this from scratch using AACR2.  But mindful of FRBR I 
>wondered if it was a useful relationship to display.  Any thoughts?
>
> 
>
>Helen
>
> 
>
>From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
>Jennifer Kelly - Librarian
>Sent: 25 October 2012 10:17
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 6
>
> 
>
>Record 6.   I wasn't sure about the "Digital reference education
>initiative" as an "other corporate body related to a work" and whether 
>to add the previous volumes as related works.
>
>Jennie Kelly
>
> 
>
>IDENTIFYING MANIFESTATIONS AND ITEMS
>
>Title proper (T)
>
>2.3.2
>
>245 $a
>
>M
>
>	Virtual Reference Service
>
>Parallel title proper (T) +
>
>2.3.3
>
>245 $b
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Other title information (T) +
>
>2.3.4
>
>245 $b
>
>M
>
>From competencies to assessment
>
> 
>
>Statement of responsibility relating to title proper (T)
>
>2.4.2
>
>245 $c
>
>M
>
>/ R David Lankes, Scott Nicholson, Marie L Radford, Joanne Silverstein,

>Lynn Westbrook, and Philip Nast, editors
>
>Designation of edition (T)
>
>2.5.2
>
>250
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Place of publication (T)
>
>2.8.2
>
>264#1 $a
>
>M
>
> 
>
>London:
>
>Publisher's name (T)
>
>2.8.4
>
>264#1 $b
>
>M
>
>Facet,
>
> 
>
>Date of publication
>
>2.8.6
>
>264#1 $c
>
>M
>
>2008.
>
> 
>
>Place of manufacture (T)
>
>2.10.2
>
>264#3 $a
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Manufacturer's name (T)
>
>2.10.4
>
>264#3 $b
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Date of manufacture
>
>2.10.6
>
>264#3 $c
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Copyright date
>
>2.11
>
>264#4 $c
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Title proper of series (T)
>
>2.12.2
>
>490 $a
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>ISSN of series +
>
>2.12.8
>
>490 $x
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Numbering within series (T)
>
>2.12.9
>
>490 $v
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Mode of issuance +
>
>2.13
>
>Ldr/07
>
>M
>
> 
>
>single unit
>
>Frequency +
>
>2.14
>
>310/321
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Identifier ... manifestation
>
>2.15
>
>020
>
>M
>
> 
>
>9781856046381
>
>Note on title +
>
>2.20.2
>
>500/547
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Note on issue, part, or iteration used as the basis for identification 
>of the resource +
>
>2.20.13
>
>500/588
>
>M
>
> 
>
>DESCRIBING CARRIERS
>
>Media type +
>
>3.2
>
>337
>
>M
>
> 
>
>Unmediated
>
>Carrier type
>
>3.3
>
>338
>
>M
>
>Volume
>
> 
>
>Extent
>
>3.4
>
>300 $a
>
>M
>
>Xvii, 206 pages
>
> 
>
>Dimensions +
>
>3.5
>
>300 $c
>
>M
>
>23 cm
>
> 
>
>IDENTIFYING WORKS AND EXPRESSIONS
>
>Preferred title for the work
>
>6.2.2
>
>130/240/7XX
>
>W
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Content type
>
>6.9
>
>336
>
>E
>
> 
>
> 
>
>DESCRIBING CONTENT
>
>Language of the content +
>
>7.12
>
>008/546
>
>E
>
>eng
>
> 
>
>Illustrative content +
>
>7.15
>
>300 $b
>
>E
>
> 
>
>illustrations
>
>Supplementary content +
>
>7.16
>
>500/504
>
>E
>
> 
>
> 
>
>PERSONS, FAMILIES, AND CORPORATE BODIES ASSOCIATED WITH A RESOURCE
>
>Creator
>
>19.2
>
>1XX/7XX
>
>W
>
> 
>
>Lankes, R. David
>
>Other person, family, or corporate body associated with a work
>
>19.3
>
>7XX
>
>W
>
>Nicholson, Scott
>
>Other person, family, or corporate body associated with a work
>
>19.3
>
>7XX
>
>W
>
>Radford, Marie L. 
>
>Other person, family, or corporate body associated with a work
>
>19.3
>
>7XX
>
>W
>
>Silverstein, Joanne
>
>Other person, family, or corporate body associated with a work
>
>19.3
>
>7XX
>
>W
>
>Westbrook, Lynn
>
>Other person, family, or corporate body associated with a work
>
>19.3
>
>7XX
>
>W
>
>Nast, Philip
>
>Other person, family, or corporate body associated with a work
>
>710
>
>W
>
>Digital reference education initiative
>
>Contributor +
>
>20.2
>
>7XX
>
>E
>
> 
>
> 
>
>RELATED RESOURCES
>
>Related work +
>
>25.1
>
>4XX/5XX/7XX
>
>W
>
>5XX: Implementing digital reference services (2002)
>
> 
>
>Related work +
>
>25.1
>
>4XX/5XX/7XX
>
>W
>
>5XX: The Virtual reference desk (2006)
>
>Related expression +
>
>26.1
>
>5XX/7XX
>
>E
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Related manifestation +
>
>27.1
>
>5XX/7XX
>
>M
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
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