I did consider it (the related works) but can't remember why I decided against it (even though it was only yesterday I re-worked it!). I can see both sides of the argument - certainly currently I probably wouldn't put them in (other than a general note) but as was said yesterday, a lot of this is about 'future proofing' the records... so I'm not sure! The whole UK edition thing I guess I'm not hugely consistent on currently, sometimes I've spotted it and sometimes not. Possibly as it specifically says UK edition I might put it in (even though I've not done it now...) I realise I made the error of putting 'other' under media type rather than unmediated - I must have misunderstood it when doing this (thought it a bit odd at the time!). Interesting to see someone had put a 130 in - wasn't sure if it needed it but happy to be persuaded otherwise! Also saw someone had put in a 588 - note on basis for identification. Hadn't seen it up until now so wondered if I'd missed something? Thanks Katrina From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Williams Sent: 25 October 2012 10:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 6 - discussion Thanks Jennifer Yes, this is an interesting point. I added the previous volumes as related works, using an unstructured format Follows: Implementing digital reference services (2002) and The virtual reference desk (2006). I took that information from the back cover, and wasn't sure whether I'd have gone to that trouble were I cataloguing this from scratch using AACR2. But mindful of FRBR I wondered if it was a useful relationship to display. Any thoughts? Helen From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Kelly - Librarian Sent: 25 October 2012 10:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 6 Record 6. I wasn't sure about the "Digital reference education initiative" as an "other corporate body related to a work" and whether to add the previous volumes as related works. Jennie Kelly IDENTIFYING MANIFESTATIONS AND ITEMS Title proper (T) 2.3.2 245 $a M Virtual Reference Service Parallel title proper (T) + 2.3.3 245 $b M Other title information (T) + 2.3.4 245 $b M From competencies to assessment Statement of responsibility relating to title proper (T) 2.4.2 245 $c M / R David Lankes, Scott Nicholson, Marie L Radford, Joanne Silverstein, Lynn Westbrook, and Philip Nast, editors Designation of edition (T) 2.5.2 250 M Place of publication (T) 2.8.2 264#1 $a M London: Publisher's name (T) 2.8.4 264#1 $b M Facet, Date of publication 2.8.6 264#1 $c M 2008. Place of manufacture (T) 2.10.2 264#3 $a M Manufacturer's name (T) 2.10.4 264#3 $b M Date of manufacture 2.10.6 264#3 $c M Copyright date 2.11 264#4 $c M Title proper of series (T) 2.12.2 490 $a M ISSN of series + 2.12.8 490 $x M Numbering within series (T) 2.12.9 490 $v M Mode of issuance + 2.13 Ldr/07 M single unit Frequency + 2.14 310/321 M Identifier ... manifestation 2.15 020 M 9781856046381 Note on title + 2.20.2 500/547 M Note on issue, part, or iteration used as the basis for identification of the resource + 2.20.13 500/588 M DESCRIBING CARRIERS Media type + 3.2 337 M Unmediated Carrier type 3.3 338 M Volume Extent 3.4 300 $a M Xvii, 206 pages Dimensions + 3.5 300 $c M 23 cm IDENTIFYING WORKS AND EXPRESSIONS Preferred title for the work 6.2.2 130/240/7XX W Content type 6.9 336 E DESCRIBING CONTENT Language of the content + 7.12 008/546 E eng Illustrative content + 7.15 300 $b E illustrations Supplementary content + 7.16 500/504 E PERSONS, FAMILIES, AND CORPORATE BODIES ASSOCIATED WITH A RESOURCE Creator 19.2 1XX/7XX W Lankes, R. 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