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Dear all again, Thank you very very much for your kind and enthusiastic <http://www.sanakirja.org/search.php?id=169876&l2=17> answers! I got good pictures and excellent help from lots of people. I have spent interesting moments in our herbarium seed reference collection and vascular plant collections. I have referred seeds of Reseda , Capparis, Moehringia, Fabaceae etc. However, in my previous message I had in pictures A & B seeds that came from dark blue fruit/berry and they are from Myrtus communis. Attached is a picture of archaeobotanical seeds from Vrouw Maria shipwreck and reference collection seeds of Myrtus communis. Uncharred seed ( with charreed Vitis) is also Vitis, inner part of the pip. I have also looked at Rosaceae, but no match. Last picture still remains a mystery, I have checked Juglans but no match. I will keep searching... Now then, I am asking some help again. According to Krolls database there is some other Myrtus finds, Netherland being the northen one. There is articles on Vegetation History and Archaebotany, but if you have some other publications, I would be grateful to have them. Best wishes, Mia ******************************************** Mia Lempiäinen-Avci, MA PhD student Herbarium University of Turku On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:51 AM, Mia Lempiäinen-Avci wrote: Dear all, Could you help me to identify these seeds and other remains on attached pictures. They are from a shipwreck called Vrouw Maria (Lady Mary), she was a Dutch merchant ship carrying a valuable cargo of art objects and sank on 1771, in the outer archipelago of Finland. All remains are from wooden barrels. Vrouw Maria was loaded with precious artifacts including works of art belonging to Catherine the Great of Russia. The ship set sail from Amsterdam on September 5, 1771, for Saint Petersburg. Pictures A and B are same seeds, B is after removing the fruit. Thank you in advance! - Mia ******************************************** Mia Lempiäinen-Avci, MA PhD student Herbarium University of Turku