I agree that it is about context. Of the schools I've seen most of them have a 'hand wash' area seperate to the loo's that picks up who goes in or out and smoke alarms to help detect smoking. Therefore no "private actions" are caught on camera.

However, it comes back to that point about method. Yes the schools have a requirement to police and prevent smoking and vandalism but there are other methods that do the job just as well. They don't need to (as Simon put it) have a multi angle view of someone "having a dump".

(Plus we all now that deterrents don't work on teenagers - they'll still do it even if they are well aware that they will get caught).

I'd be interested to see what shape the Code of Practice takes and what support is then available to implement it. Schools always seem to be that 'forgotten cousin' when it comes to support. (In my experience at least). 

 

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On 12 Sep 2012, at 10:26, Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I would like more context personally.

Are the cameras in the toilets over the heads of children as they take a
dump? Or are they at the entrance and in the communal area to keep an eye on
wags vandalising? The way the press writes things you'd be forgiven for
thinking that every time someone sits on the loo they are filmed from 10
different angles...

Absolutely right about proportionate response. It would also be nice to see
the justification for the CCTV too.


Simon Howarth
www.informationedge.co.uk


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I note that no one has asked about the cost of the maintenance that led to
cameras being installed in "interesting" places as a proportionate measure!

Donald Henderson
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Perth & Kinross Council


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New report out today about schools installing CCTV in toilets :

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/scoOz7XkoKRze3RtcOrYA_w/view.m?id=15
&gid=world/2012/sep/11/cctv-cameras-school-changing-rooms&cat=top-storie
s

The Protection of Freedoms Act promises a new  code on CCTV but there is no
indication that it will contain restrictions on where CCTV can be installed
- see our article on the new CCTV regime:

http://www.actnow.org.uk/content/47


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