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Hi all, We run emi-argus-1.4.0-1.sl5. When we try to stop the services, after they have been up for only a short while, they stop properly. But if we leave the services running for a while then try to stop them, some of them (pepd, pdp) stay running. I have to kill -9 the javas. They silently "fail to stop"; bash -x say " Unable to connect to localhost:8155, perhaps the service is not running". This doesn't interfere with the functionlity of ARGUS; it's just a nuisance. Anybody else a bit suspicious of these javas? Steve -- Steve Jones [log in to unmask] System Administrator office: 220 High Energy Physics Division tel (int): 42334 Oliver Lodge Laboratory tel (ext): +44 (0)151 794 2334 University of Liverpool http://www.liv.ac.uk/physics/hep/