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Yes, that could be said, a collaboration too. There was a late nineteenth
century Russian equivalent, a more sustained effort, Kozma Prutov, but
again a collaboration, involving four poets, three of whom were brothers
and the other Aleksey Konstaninovitch Tolstoy, quotes include 'Even oysters
have enemies'.

On 12 July 2012 22:22, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Our very own Ern Malley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Jul 12, 2012 4:34 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent
> >
> >Yes, Mark, Ficke I think was finished as an original poet afterwards and
> >became a jeremiad-hurling old conservative.
> >
> >On 12 July 2012 16:16, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Dave, by the way, for introducing me to spectra. The best work
> >> either of them ever did.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >Sent: Jul 12, 2012 3:00 AM
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent
> >> >
> >> >>On 12 July 2012 06:24, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >Isn't araki a drink? <
> >> >
> >> >In Amharic, I believe. Not understand. But otherwise it's folding
> Japanese
> >> >paper and a literary war.
> >> >
> >> >On 12 July 2012 06:24, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Isn't araki a drink?
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >Sent: Jul 12, 2012 12:57 AM
> >> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It was suggested by a game of araki :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On 12 July 2012 01:24, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Which leaves only the question of what this has to do with Kent.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> >Sent: Jul 11, 2012 7:29 PM
> >> >> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Oh dear. German for ham too!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >It could have been an AY for KJ I suppose, but AK is "Anne
> Knish".
> >> >> >> Spectra.
> >> >> >> >Opus 67.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On 11 July 2012 22:54, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Nice poem, Dave, tho I have no idea what it has to do with
> Kent.
> >> >> Unless
> >> >> >> >> "speck" is meant to be read as the German word for ham.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Jul 11, 2012 3:36 PM
> >> >> >> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >I agree about the abomination, Doug, as far as cream goes. I
> >> better
> >> >> >> >> >underscore that 'Kent' is 'KJ' as in Kent Johnson.and 'speck'
> >> might
> >> >> >> >> suggest
> >> >> >> >> >'Spectra' and 'AK' is initials that can be linked to both.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >:)
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >On 11 July 2012 18:07, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Neat. I also 'saw' 'white drones' for some reason.... But
> this
> >> is
> >> >> >> >> England,
> >> >> >> >> >> eh?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> The near & the far (but I consider cream or milk in tea an
> >> >> >> abomination,
> >> >> >> >> >> Dave).
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Doug
> >> >> >> >> >> On 2012-07-11, at 12:45 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > *Speck*
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > *
> >> >> >> >> >> > *
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > *an AK for KJ*
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Would not in the early morning
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > my mind start toward the East.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > There are white domes somewhere
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > under that blue and emptied sky, white domes, white domes,
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > therefore even the cream
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > is burnished safest yellow.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Cream it is and better than lemon
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > in the first tea at breakfast.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > I think of tigers as eating the sun
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > and drinking lemons.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > These teabags come from a green grocer,
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > not the long blue miles to Ceylon.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > The herring boats set out
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > toward the red shoals.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> >> > David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >> >> >> >> >> > **
> >> >> >> >> >> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >> >> >> >> >> > The Animal Subsides
> >> >> >> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >> >> >> >> >> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >> >> >> >> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >> >> >> >> >> > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> >> >> > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Douglas Barbour
> >> >> >> >> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> >> >> >> >> >> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Latest books:
> >> >> >> >> >> Continuations & Continuations 2 (with Sheila E Murphy)
> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=962
> >> >> >> >> >> Wednesdays'
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Why canít words mean what they say?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>                 Robert Kroetsch
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >> >> >> >> >**
> >> >> >> >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >> >> >> >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >> >> >> >> >The Animal Subsides
> >> >> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >> >> >> >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >> >> >> >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >> >> >> >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >> >> >> >**
> >> >> >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >> >> >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >> >> >> >The Animal Subsides
> >> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >> >> >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >> >> >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >> >> >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >> >> >**
> >> >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >> >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >> >> >The Animal Subsides
> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >> >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >> >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >> >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >> >**
> >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >> >The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >**
> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
>



-- 
David Joseph Bircumshaw
**
Website and A Chide's Alphabet
http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com