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Yes, that could be said, a collaboration too. There was a late nineteenth century Russian equivalent, a more sustained effort, Kozma Prutov, but again a collaboration, involving four poets, three of whom were brothers and the other Aleksey Konstaninovitch Tolstoy, quotes include 'Even oysters have enemies'. On 12 July 2012 22:22, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Our very own Ern Malley > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> > >Sent: Jul 12, 2012 4:34 PM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent > > > >Yes, Mark, Ficke I think was finished as an original poet afterwards and > >became a jeremiad-hurling old conservative. > > > >On 12 July 2012 16:16, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> Thanks Dave, by the way, for introducing me to spectra. The best work > >> either of them ever did. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> > >> >Sent: Jul 12, 2012 3:00 AM > >> >To: [log in to unmask] > >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent > >> > > >> >>On 12 July 2012 06:24, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> >Isn't araki a drink? < > >> > > >> >In Amharic, I believe. Not understand. But otherwise it's folding > Japanese > >> >paper and a literary war. > >> > > >> >On 12 July 2012 06:24, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Isn't araki a drink? > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> > >> >> >Sent: Jul 12, 2012 12:57 AM > >> >> >To: [log in to unmask] > >> >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent > >> >> > > >> >> >It was suggested by a game of araki :) > >> >> > > >> >> >On 12 July 2012 01:24, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Which leaves only the question of what this has to do with Kent. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> > >> >> >> >Sent: Jul 11, 2012 7:29 PM > >> >> >> >To: [log in to unmask] > >> >> >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Oh dear. German for ham too! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >It could have been an AY for KJ I suppose, but AK is "Anne > Knish". > >> >> >> Spectra. > >> >> >> >Opus 67. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >On 11 July 2012 22:54, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Nice poem, Dave, tho I have no idea what it has to do with > Kent. > >> >> Unless > >> >> >> >> "speck" is meant to be read as the German word for ham. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> >> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Jul 11, 2012 3:36 PM > >> >> >> >> >To: [log in to unmask] > >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: Snap for Kent > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I agree about the abomination, Doug, as far as cream goes. I > >> better > >> >> >> >> >underscore that 'Kent' is 'KJ' as in Kent Johnson.and 'speck' > >> might > >> >> >> >> suggest > >> >> >> >> >'Spectra' and 'AK' is initials that can be linked to both. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >:) > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >On 11 July 2012 18:07, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Neat. I also 'saw' 'white drones' for some reason.... But > this > >> is > >> >> >> >> England, > >> >> >> >> >> eh? > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> The near & the far (but I consider cream or milk in tea an > >> >> >> abomination, > >> >> >> >> >> Dave). > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Doug > >> >> >> >> >> On 2012-07-11, at 12:45 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > *Speck* > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > * > >> >> >> >> >> > * > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > *an AK for KJ* > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Would not in the early morning > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > my mind start toward the East. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > There are white domes somewhere > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > under that blue and emptied sky, white domes, white domes, > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > therefore even the cream > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > is burnished safest yellow. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Cream it is and better than lemon > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > in the first tea at breakfast. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > I think of tigers as eating the sun > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > and drinking lemons. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > These teabags come from a green grocer, > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > not the long blue miles to Ceylon. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > The herring boats set out > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > toward the red shoals. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> >> > David Joseph Bircumshaw > >> >> >> >> >> > ** > >> >> >> >> >> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet > >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > >> >> >> >> >> > The Animal Subsides > >> >> >> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > >> >> >> >> >> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > >> >> >> >> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > >> >> >> >> >> > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > >> >> >> >> >> > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Douglas Barbour > >> >> >> >> >> [log in to unmask] > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ > >> >> >> >> >> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/ > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Latest books: > >> >> >> >> >> Continuations & Continuations 2 (with Sheila E Murphy) > >> >> >> >> >> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=962 > >> >> >> >> >> Wednesdays' > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Why can’t words mean what they say? > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Robert Kroetsch > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >-- > >> >> >> >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw > >> >> >> >> >** > >> >> >> >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet > >> >> >> >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > >> >> >> >> >The Animal Subsides > >> >> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > >> >> >> >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > >> >> >> >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > >> >> >> >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > >> >> >> >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >-- > >> >> >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw > >> >> >> >** > >> >> >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet > >> >> >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > >> >> >> >The Animal Subsides > >> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > >> >> >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > >> >> >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > >> >> >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > >> >> >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >-- > >> >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw > >> >> >** > >> >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet > >> >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > >> >> >The Animal Subsides > http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > >> >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > >> >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > >> >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > >> >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >David Joseph Bircumshaw > >> >** > >> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet > >> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > >> >The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > >> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > >> >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > >> >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > >> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >David Joseph Bircumshaw > >** > >Website and A Chide's Alphabet > >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > >The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > >twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > >blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com > -- David Joseph Bircumshaw ** Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com