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Meanwhile, people here for less than 1or 3 years do need to know how to call emergency services: I read this week 'After 4 months, she had managed to learn enough English to call 999 and plead with the police for help.' Thankfully, asylum seeker, refugee and other voluntary groups are doing good work. And the EIF has helped. Isabel Arnold > Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:47:37 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: ESOL ELIGIBILITY QUERY > To: [log in to unmask] > > I've just been looking at this more carefully because it affects a > potential learner who I spoke to yesterday. (So thanks Jane, a timely > alert.) > > As far as I can see, SFA rules for 2011 to 2012 say: > "c) The spouse of a person with settled status, where the spouse is not a > citizen of an EEA country and has been resident in the UK for three > years." on p 6 of the 2011/12 Learner Eligibility and Contribution Rules: > http://readingroom.lsc.gov.uk/SFA/LearnerEligibilityandContributionRules_2011_12_12Aug2011__June_revision_V2.1.pdf > > But the YPLA rules for the same period say: > "c The spouse or civil partner of a person with settled status, who has > been both married (or has undertaken a recognised civil partnership > ceremony) and resident in the UK for one year." on p 17 of the Funding > Guidance 2011/12: Funding Regulations > http://readingroom.ypla.gov.uk/ypla/ypla-funding_guidance_regulations_2011-12_gn-jul11-v1.pdf > > !!! > > I agree with Linda's interpretation of who this rule applies to - my > potential learner is the spouse of someone with ILR rather than > British or EEA citizenship. > > Gail > > On 16/05/2012, lindy o'halloran <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > I think the change appears to be about the status of the resident partner, > > not where the spouse is coming from. It looks to me like nothing has changed > > for spouses of UK/EU residents with full citizenship, but if the UK resident > > just has ILR, then their spouse needs to be here three years before they > > become eligible. If that's correct (and please correct me if I've misread > > it!), then it would affect a lot of our settled communities (men and women) > > as many UK residents do not have full citizenship before they get married. > > Linda > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:32:59 +0100 > > From: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: ESOL ELIGIBILITY QUERY > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > Can > > anyone help clarify the change in funding eligibility rules below > > > > > > > > The > > upshot here is that fewer recent arrivals (predominantly women) will be > > eligible to access ESOL provision > > > > > > > > Or > > we may be reading this wrong? In which case any clarification you can help > > with > > would be much appreciated > > > > > > > > In > > the 2011 / 2012 Funding guidance on page 11 it states that > > > > > > > > c The spouse or civil partner of a > > person with settled status, who has > > > > been both married (or has > > undertaken a recognised civil partnership > > > > ceremony) and resident in the UK > > for one year. > > > > > > > > d The spouse or civil partner of an > > EEA national living within the UK, > > > > who has been both married (or has > > undertaken a recognised civil > > > > partnership ceremony) and resident in the UK for one year. > > > > > > > > However > > in the 2012 / 2013 Funding Rules document on pages 72 / 73 it states that > > > > > > > > c) The spouse of a person with > > settled status, where the spouse is > > > > not a citizen of an EEA country and > > has been resident in the UK > > > > for three years > > > > > > > > d) The spouse of an EEA national > > living within the UK, where the > > > > spouse is not a citizen of an EEA > > country and has been resident > > > > in the UK for one year > > > > > > > > This appears to state that if the spouse > > comes to join their partner in the UK from outside the EEA they have to be > > resident in the Uk for 3 years (and not one year as in 11/12 ) to be > > eligible > > to access provision > > > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you! > > > > > > > > Jane Bass > > > > Programme Area Manager ESOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *********************************** > > ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest > > in research into teaching and learning ESOL. 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