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Lorna, do I feel a session at Dev8eD emerging? Was just gonna email you off-list re that anyway.

S.


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From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lorna Campbell
Sent: 02 April 2012 17:00
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Subject: Re: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control (Git)

Bit more background....Martin and I were talking about how to make Sarah's suggested "want to edit" button in Jorum a reality.   As Martin said, expecting resource creators to all set up their own Git accounts isn't really practical so realistically you'd be looking at creating a link between Git and the repository.  So effectively Jorum would have it's own Git installation or GitHub directory.   And as Martin said, that will require some Git / DSpace API wrangling.  Definitely an interesting project there for someone!

Cheers
Lorna



On 2 Apr 2012, at 16:49, Martin Hawksey wrote:

A problem with a Want to edit / repurpose is it's reliant on the resource creator setting something up and you will lose the versioning history. A better approach might be to look at integrating Git with an existing repositories that way allowing tracking of reuse and easy republication.

The blueprint would be install Git alongside your existing repository and have a remix/fork button on each resource page. When clicked the user gets a mirror of the resource to remix and eventually republish/commit to the repository. Integration should also let you pull comments made from the Git system to repository.

The way to go would probably be for someone to do some API wrangling to get Git and repository (dspace, eprints etc) talking to each other.

Shame I only discovered this idea now, could have made a nice rapid innovation project. Doh!

Martin



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From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Currier
Sent: 02 April 2012 16:11
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Subject: Re: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control (Git)

Hi all,

Just thinking about this from a Jorum point-of-view: it would be nice for Jorum contributors using this approach to be able to link straight from their OER's page on Jorum to a GitHub page, labelled something like: "Want to edit / repurpose this OER? Follow this link".

Not having thought this through at all, I know there are a number of considerations that this idea would entail. If anyone was thinking about actually trying this out on a reasonable scale (e.g. with formal JISC support) and would like to get Jorum involved, let me know!

S.

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From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lorna Campbell
Sent: 02 April 2012 16:04
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Subject: Re: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control (Git)

Hi there,

All interesting ideas!  I can certainly see the attraction of using a platform like Git to managing the sharing and reuse of educational resources.

Regarding the issue of whether it has been a help or a hinderance trying to meet the needs of  educators-seeking-reusable-materials and people-seeking-learning in the same platforms, I guess I'm not sure.  I  think in a way this highlights that we still have a lot to learn about how both educators and learners engage and interact with resources.  We make a lot of assumptions about what learners and educators want and I wonder how often these assumptions are based on real world practice?  Something for further investigation perhaps?

Cheers
Lorna



On 2 Apr 2012, at 13:41, Amber THOMAS wrote:

I've been thinking a lot about what we can learn from open source world.

I think one of them is that open source separate out where the software plays/runs for end users, and where the software is exchanged between developers. Sourceforge, github, openstack are for developers. It provides them with the reusable code and tools for orchestrating that code.
All that is hidden to the general end user.

I can't help wondering if trying to meet the needs of educators-seeking-reusable-materials in the same platform as people-seeking-learning is bound to confuse most people and frustrate open practitioners.

Perhaps we should go for an OER Version approach (see end of http://infteam.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2010/12/10/rethinking-the-o-in-oer/ )

Put content that is CC licenced in the places where the public are Let it mix freely with other sorts of open content: research papers, music, images, Wikipedia.
But as well as cc licence, add an OER logo (could even be the blue hands one recently launched) Clicking that logo takes you to the OER version on the providers website or specialist OER platform - editable flash file, the downloadable mp3, the MS office word processed / slides ...

i.e like "you can get this on sourceforge" but without having to lead end users to an unfamiliar and intimidating specialist environment

that way we could separate out advocacy to educators to reuse from advocacy of free open remixable content

the threshold for OER can stay high, but without slowing the supply of less deliberately educational-reuse-focussed openly licensed content.


hmmmm.


Amber


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From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 02 April 2012 11:37
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Subject: Re: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control (Git)

Here is one

https://github.com/ehec-outbreak-crowdsourced

Which provides for the quite REF like contributions graph

https://github.com/ehec-outbreak-crowdsourced/BGI-data-analysis/graphs/impact

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Martin Hawksey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
If you are doing any community based software development you've probably heard of Git for those that haven't it's basically a tool/method for creating and sharing different versions of code.



I've come across a couple of examples recently where Git is being used outside of software development, sharing files instead of code, mainly around art projects. I've also found a new syllabus sharing service based on Git called ClassConnect. Still an emerging area but might be worth considering if you are thinking about alternative models for repositories.



Links and more information here
http://mashe.hawksey.info/2012/03/do-you-git-it-open-educational-resourcespractices-meets-software-version-control/
(check out the comments for extra links to things).



If you have any questions about this get in touch.



Martin



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