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Scot suggestion is appreciated. These days, i avoid Karan's posting. I too have seen Scot's post informing Karen the list of forums where hydrocarbon issues are dealt. Once i have appreciated Karen's discussion here because to me a geologist should approach earth processes holistically, than piece-meal. But, Karen so far has not presented any argument in any format which leads a scientific discussion, rather than asking for some 'HELP' for supporting him, as someone squarely noted, here. biju On 5 March 2012 16:09, Krueger, Scot <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > ** > Please stop responding to quack posts! > > Responding to quack posts is simply an encouragement for them to keep > posting. Every time you tell them to go away you are simply providing > ammunition for their feeling of being persecuted by the scientific > community. The best recourse is to simply delete these posts without > responding, You do the tectonics board a disservice by provoking further > responses. > > In the case of Karan's posts, it is fairly obvious from his own posts that > he has not taken the time to become educated on the various theories and > lines of evidence surrounding the origin of petroleum. The most obvious > example is the mere fact that he has chosen a tectonics forum to raise his > objections. I have privately provided him with links to more > appropriate sites for such a discussion - giving him the benefit of the > doubt that he may have something worth saying to an appropriate audience - > but he has chosen to persist in posting here. > > Unlike many readers of this forum I also have an interest in the origins > of petroleum. I asked him in private to provide me with a sample of what > new evidence or new theories he has to present. His response was a claim > that I would likely not accept his ideas, citing that it is evidence that > God has presented to him, and pointing to a Bible Review web site where I > can go to see his posts. He admits that he is not well studied in the > scientific debate, being merely a middle aged businessman, but is convinced > he has discovered the "truth". It is clear he has no interest in testing > his "truth" against the existing data that has been amassed over the last > few decades in the biogenic-abiogenic scientific debate. > > I think most readers of this forum are capable of recognizing this > argument for what it is - a matter of faith, not science - and simply let > it go as the occasional cost of maintaining an open forum. Unless we invoke > a forum leader to screen posts (which I would not advocate, for reasons of > scientific openness) we will need to accept that quacks will occasionally > stumble on this forum and rant until they get bored and go elsewhere. > Responding to such posts as if they were legitimate scientific inquiries > merely prolongs the annoyance by provoking further reponses. Let's all stop > and he will eventually get tired of ranting and go away. If reading such > posts gets you riled up enough that you might respond, then simply delete > them without reading them. > > I do not advocate stifling dissenting voices in scientific debate. > If Karan has legitimate scientific aims, he will find a more appropriate > forum. If not, the less we respond to his rantings, the sooner he will get > bored and leave this forum to find another audience who will give him the > attention he so desperately seeks. > > Scot > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tectonics & structural geology discussion list [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Jann Beresford > *Sent:* Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:33 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Plate Tectonic and Earth formation > > *hi Karan* > ** > *i'm sorry to say this but you are really being quite boring with this > deep origin stuff ...this email is a repeat of something you have said > before .....* > ** > *and i will be deleting anything further you write without opening it * > > *Jann Beresford > Senior Geologist/Geotechnical Geologist > Project Leader GeoQuest > Zambia > +260971696101* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: karan bansal <[log in to unmask]> > To: GEO-TECTONICS <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 10:31 > Subject: Plate Tectonic and Earth formation > > Dear members, > Hydrocarbon formation can give us very important information about > forces responsible for the motion of plates and earth formation also.so we > should observe it minutely . > there are sufficient evidence by the Russians that petroleum has deep > origin but unfortunately they have manipulated it with abiogenic origin . > they have ignored the strong evidence of its biogenic origin . while we > have strong chemical evidence of its link with living organism(we have > observe spores,porphyrins......etc ) and can not be ignored. > 2. we are getting oil near the sediments. > there is no need to manipulate it with abiogenic origin while we have of > its deep origin also and they have been ignored by the scientific > community.instead of manipulating it with abiogenic origin while deep > origin also they have to observe the basic reason that why it has biogenic > origin while having it has deep origin also. > this can be both and can give us a very very important information > about the earth formation and at the end forces responsible for the motion > of plates. > > regs > KARAN > -- Biju Longhinos Ph.D Asst. Professor in Geology Department of Collegiate Education ( *Government of Kerala*) University College, Trivadrum City, India http://universitycollege.academia.edu/BijuLonghinos