Hi outdoor researchers,

Ming Wai - your 'listening in' rings true suggesting that curiosity and opportunity are part of the larger (OAE) system. I am sure that we can learn a whole lot more about it by listening to learners speaking to each other - it will be interesting, Sue, to see the ESRC report when it comes out. I am still wondering whether 'adventure' is mostly just the gateway/catalyst for a whole range of interconnected learning processes and that if the adventure message is shouted too loud, these other processes might suffer.

Patrick, I think you are emphasising the value of effort in adventure and life. How could I disagree with this? The rewards of effort in much school work are long term, whereas in much adventure activity the rewards for effort are more immediate - partly because they are often new activities in which the learning curve is steep and early success is visible, physical and multi-sensory.

Maybe a strong focus on adventure (which is typically presented in terms of individual development) takes attention away from the group experience? At some stages of development working together in a group and developing social skills can be of greater significance for some or all participants. In the design of OAE courses perhaps we hedge our bets and put in a bit of everything, generating a whole world of experiences - some more individual, some more group-based and some more adventurous than others.

Or perhaps adventure is so important and of such intrinsic value for everyone that we infuse everything with as much adventure as possible?

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