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On Feb 5, 2012 3:25 PM, "Karen Coyle" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On 2/2/12 10:14 AM, Corey A Harper wrote:
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>> I'm open to other suggestions about where we can reach out to for some
>> additional perspective.
>>
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> It's not only a matter of "where" it's a matter of "how." We've all been
> in on the lengthy conversations about terminology (and some of us went
> through that again at length at a meeting in Seattle last week). You can't
> expect much when you invite Russian speakers to a discussion taking place
> only in Latin. The DCAM terminology is a barrier. You can claim that
> 1) that terminology is necessary
> 2) people need to make the effort to learn it
>
> but that approach may not lead to success, as I believe is the case with
> the current version of DCAM. Reaching out should mean at least meeting
> people half way and doing all that is possible to bring them along. "Sink
> or swim" isn't an invitation.
>
> I actually believe that the utility of DCAM must be and can be expressed
> in terms of things people know and need to accomplish in their own
> environments. Examples and use cases will be a big help. That may even been
> a good place to start on this "round 2" effort: looking at what DCAM gives
> us as practitioners could reveal what else is needed, if anything, from
> such a model.
>
> kc
>
>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Bruce D'Arcus<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Jon Phipps<[log in to unmask]>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> This post represents an interesting perspective from the scientific data
>>>> community on some of the challenges to implementing semantic web
>>>> solutions
>>>> and integrating them into existing system architectures and programming
>>>> models. This certainly looks to me like a place where the DCAP/DCAM
>>>> architecture coupled with some concrete implementation examples could
>>>> be of
>>>> benefit...
>>>>
>>>
>>> FWIW, I think the issue is much less about models than it is about the
>>> other stuff.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
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