Ok, so far we have the following opinions on the specimen:
1) healed fractured dog tibia (with fibula fused on it)
2) seal (rib?)

There is monk seal in the Aegean and I assume that in the past it was there too (in even more areas). My only objections with the specimen being a rib are:
-The bone walls are quite thick (i.e. their thickness, especially for such a small size, is reminiscent of long bone that rib) see this new photo:
-The trace of articular surface surviving at one end is clearly concave (not necessarily excludes rib but they tend NOT to be so concave....but I have no idea about seals) see new photo:
-The small bit fused on the larger bone can not be explained so easily by that being a rib see new photo:

Unfortunately I don't have access to a monk seal skeleton.

The only argument against the dog tibia is the odd shape and the difficulty in discerning a healed fracture. What other conditions deform bones and make them more 'curvy'?e.g. rickets?
The jury is still out I guess.

Thank you for your opinions and don't hesitate to express more of them.



Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:37:20 -0700
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Hi Anne,
I also concur that the fused part is odd. Angelos, do you have access to monk seal comparative material where you are?

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Anne Jensen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
It's a rib, and I agree with Chris it looks like a seal.  I don't know if
there are or were anything but monk seals around there.  The little fused
bit is a bit weird, though.

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Which element do you think it is - long bone, rib?


On 3/11/2011 09:35, Christyann Darwent wrote:
> Hi Angelos,
> It appears to be a seal, head + proximal 1/4 shaft, right. I'm nost sure
> what species of sea mammal you have in that part of the world.
> Cheers,
> Chris
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Richard
Wright<[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> Angelos
>> I think it could well be the head of a rib.
>> Richard
>> On 2/11/2011 02:13, Angelos Hadjikoumis wrote:
>>> Hello colleagues!
>>> I have a mystery bone from an Early Bronze site (in Greece). I have
>>> uploaded some photographs on flickr for those who want to attempt to
>>> me out with this one.
>>> It has a very 'curvy' overall shape and it unfortunately preserves
only a
>>> fraction of one of the two epiphyses. Also note the thin bone fragment
>>> fused on the larger 'curvy' shaft. Could it be a radius-ulna of an
>>> unknown-to-me species? I vaguely remember seeing similarly-shaped
>>> bones in human and marine mammal skeletons. I would not exclude the
>>> possibility that it is a pathological specimen. So far I had some
>>> pathological dog specimens but this one's morphology is very different
>>> any case, humerus is the nearest shape from the dog elements).
>>> Here are the photos:
>>> 1) http://www.flickr.com/photos/**59255808@N07/6302753252/in/**
>>> 2) http://www.flickr.com/photos/**59255808@N07/6302757638/in/**
>>> 3) http://www.flickr.com/photos/**59255808@N07/6302761764/in/**
>>> 4) http://www.flickr.com/photos/**59255808@N07/6302768284/in/**
>>> Peace,
>>> Angelos

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