A couple of points:

(1) It is unclear what went into the second level analysis, pre or post
images, the difference in pre or post, or one of the images.

(2) It is very circular, you have searched the data to extract, rather than
pick an area a priori to extract the data.

Best Regards, Donald McLaren
D.G. McLaren, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Research Fellow, GRECC, Bedford VA
Research Fellow, Department of Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital
Harvard Medical School
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Mario Gatica <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:

> Dear SPMers,
> I would like to ask for an opinion concerning the statistical validity of
> an analysis I did.
> I have pre/post experiment where subjects are scanned before and after an
> intervention, in order to compare changes in activation. During the
> scanning sessions subjects were just passively stimulated. This main effect
> was very robust.
> In addition to fMRI I also did psychophysical testing (outside the
> scanner) and I am trying to find correlations between changes in
> performance and changes in activation.
> I followed the straighforward approach of doing a 2nd level design with
> the changes in performance entered as a covariate (1 value per subject) and
> then the contrast "0 1" or "0 -1", as the case may be, limiting the
> analysis to the postcentral gyrus with a mask (about 1000 voxels). With
> this design, no voxels survived multiple comparisons correction, so I tried
> progressively more relaxed thresholds until activation appeared (usually
> with an uncorrected p of 0.05).  I then  made a spherical mask around this
> coordinate and extracted the mean raw data from the individual conn* images
> used in the group analysis (around 30 voxels), and used these to do a
> Pearsons correlation test outside of SPM (with the psychophysical data),
> which was positive.
> My question is, is this a valid thing to do at all or is the analysis
> biased? On the one hand, the correlation done outside of SPM  was strongly
> significant and made sense theoretically. On the hand, this does smell like
> biasing the analysis. Of course such a thing would not be valid when
> testing the main effect of interest. Does that also hold for correlation
> with an external variable (such as behavioural performance)?
> Many thanks in advance.
> Mario Gatica
> --
> Mario Gatica
> Institut für Neuroinformatik
> Ruhr-Universität Bochum