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Yep, I have come across this loads in the past and it is difficult to give a one size fits all as it will depend on the facts known in the situation.Have suggested a number of options to managers in the past, depending on the person and situation: -If person engaging in dialogue, encourage A&E attendance and ask for confirmation; manager/ other keep regular comms. Is there a friend at work that can help? -If not engaging, Contact next of kin via HR to express serious concern (my view is that management would do this if it was an accident at work so why any different with mental health?) -GP contact (if known) to express concern but ultimately contact Police if at any stage comms lost or serious concern for their safety. The police will, if need be, bosh their door down and take them to a place of safety Hope this helps, just my experiences :) Sent from my iPhone Kind regards, Tim Ellis RN, SPCHN (OH), PgDip OH Occupational Health Advisor Occupational Health Department Edward Herbert Building (EHB) Loughborough University Leicestershire LE11 3TU Telephone: 01509 222851 Mobile: 07917 053340 Fax: 01509 222852 http://www.lboro.ac.uk/admin/hse/occupational/ On 16 Jun 2011, at 13:57, "Sharon Smith" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: If you call the Mental Health Crisis team you just get told to ring the police! From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Patience Sent: 16 June 2011 08:01 To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] The person speaking to the individual who is contemplating suicide should ask how the person intends to do it. Then one can call the mental health crisis team. It's called mental health first aid and there is training available for managers, oh or hr regards to handling such situations. Patience On 15 Jun 2011, at 22:55, sharon naylor <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: was thinking something more along the lines of a written action plan/rationale for those actions ________________________________ Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:26:26 +0100 From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> We advise managers to call an ambulance in such circumstances as it is a potential emergency. Regards, Carr On Jun 15, 2011 11:21 p.m., "sharon naylor" <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > > another musing - have just been contacted by a past colleague wanting advice with a situation they were experiencing(have to stress at this point that my colleague is not OH/clinical). Someone has contacted my colleague by phone and text giving the impression that they are suicidal, it is known that the individual is "depressed" following multiple bereavements. Now I know what I would do in such circumstances but started to ponder about a policy/action plan for those that may well be contacted as a friend/peer/line manager who may not have any codes of practise for guidance. 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