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Dear Maddy
This is a difficult one. Wade-Evans does indeed say that it’s a common name but Browne Willis in 1733 gave no dedication. The parish web site claims the dedication as St Mary on the strength of the Ap Thomas will (?alone), but also gives Luke as an alternative. It further explains ‘llwch’ as referring to the large extent of watery ground in the parish, now bog where not drained (cf. anglicised Wentloog in Gwent). Apparently Llyn-Llanllwch and Llanllwch Lake were names still given to this area in the nineteenth century. Sir John Lloyd’s A History of Carmarthenshire (1935, 1939) is said to mention that the local Templar commandery’s lands included a moiety of the mill of ‘Landlothe’ outside the walls of Carmarthen and identifies this as land at Llanllwch. Lloyd also gives Mary as the dedication, in the context of its gift to Carmarathen Priory as a chapelry in the medieval parish of St Peter. It may have been that chapelry status which prevented use of the phrase ‘church of’. I’ll try to get a look at Lloyd tomorrow.
Best wishes
Graham
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Subject: Re: [M-R] cult statues of the Virgin Mary
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
I think I may have another for Jim and Graham. The will of the great Sir Rhys ap Thomas of Dinefwr (d 1525) lists bequests of plate, vestments etc to a number of churches in south-west Wales + a vestment to "Our Lady of Llanllwch". Llanllwch is a church on the outskirts of Carmarthen. I thought at first it was just that the church was dedicated to the BVM but
(a) Wade-Evans's Parochiale Wallicanum gives the dedication as one St Llwch (dodgy, I know as it literally means 'St Dust', but Wade-Evans says he's come across the name elsewhere) and
(b) in all the other bequests of vestments etc the will says specifically 'to our Lady church of ...'
So could this be another cult statue?
Maddy
Dr Madeleine Gray
Reader in History
School of Education/Ysgol Addysg
University of Wales, Newport/Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd
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