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Richard Sharpe is currently Professor of Diplomatic at Oxford--this is what it is called here.

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  medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Does the readership in paleography still exist at Oxford (I couldn't find it in the faculty list for history) or has it been subsumed into the chair of diplomatic?

  On 30/01/2010 8:55 PM, Madeleine Gray wrote: 
    medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture 
    Palaeography is still taught as part of the University of London Diploma in Archive Administration (though as far as I know it's mostly post-medieval and taught as a functional skill for reading documents rather than as an academic subject, which is how I was taught).
    Part of the problem is of course that today's students do find palaeography - and even the reading of what I'd consider easy C17 and C18 hands - increasingly difficult because they so rarely read handwriting in any form. And of course if it's hard or boring (a) it's our fault for not making it easy and exciting and (b) they don't choose to do it. 

    Maddy

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    medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

    Anyway, you can always rope in an archivist. These guys are very good at
    palaeography. And there are many of them. At least overhere in Nederland.

    Henk
    (who was taught palaeography in a town archive and in his turn taught
    others)

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    [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens John Dillon
    Verzonden: vrijdag 29 januari 2010 23:17
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    Onderwerp: Re: [M-R] FW: [dm-l] Three jobs at King's College London (CCH)

    medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

    Let's take a deep breath, everybody.   A few observations:

    1)  It's only a surmise that these positions are intended to replace the
    professorship in Palaeography.  I think it unlikely that they are.  KCL must
    have an approval process for new staff positions.  Given that such processes
    are seldom swift, the positions probably were requested months ago, if not
    longer.  They address operational needs of the Centre.  The Professor of
    Palaeography is not associated with KCL's Centre for Computing in the
    Humanities, and his activities and its seem not to overlap.  Here's David
    Ganz's list of duties:
    http://tinyurl.com/ygrrygp
    And here's the Centre's list of projects:
    http://www.cch.kcl.ac.uk/research/projects/

    2)  Since the invention first of moveable type and later of digitally
    encoded analogs for type, vast amounts of text not requiring palaeographical
    expertise for their de-coding (reading) and re-encoding have been created in
    the Humanities.  Thus to suggest that the texts that these people will be
    working with will necessarily require palaeographical expertise seems
    curiously blinkered.  There will certainly be times when such expertise will
    be needed.  But not always, by any stretch of the imagination.  Even when it
    _is_ needed, it should not take much reflection to realize that, in the case
    of an academic department whose activities range from the Dead Sea Scrolls
    to the Archive of Desmond Tutu, the particular expertise required may be
    beyond the purview of the professor of Palaeography.

    3)  In some cases, the problem-solving ability in question may entail an
    ability to recognize particular palaeographical needs and to obtain from
    others assistance in meeting these.  At my university's smaller but still
    very varied digital humanities center, the same senior staff person has at
    different times had to deal with matters beyond his expertise involving
    characters and other signs in late medieval and early modern Greek scripts,
    early modern Icelandic manuscripts, early nineteenth-century German written
    documents, and doubtless others of which I'm not aware.  Expecting him to
    have personal expertise in all these areas would be unrealistic.  He's
    reached out and gotten the assistance he needed. 

    4)  My university does not have a professor of Palaeography (nor do most:
    KCL claims to have the only established chair of Palaeography in the
    English-speaking world).  Graduate-level introductions to the palaeography
    of particular languages are offered in several departments, though not as
    uniformly or as regularly as could be desired.  And they are taught by
    people who themselves are not primarily paleographers, though their acquired
    skill level in this area is high.  KCL is de-emphasising palaeography.
    That's regrettable.  But does it follow from the elimination of the
    professorship that the skills in question will not be taught there at some
    level by some qualified person or persons? 

    Best,
    John Dillon
    University of Wisconsin-Madison

    On Friday, January 29, 2010, at 1:03 pm, Frans van Liere wrote:

    > Indeed. One of the skills for the new job is "strong ... problem solving
    > skills". You'll need that if you can't read the stuff you'll be
    > working with.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Frans van Liere
    > Department of History, Calvin College
    > 1845 Knollcrest Circle SE
    > Grand Rapids, MI 49546-4402
    > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
    > http://www.calvin.edu/academic/history/faculty/vanlieref/
    >
    > >>> "Cormack, Margaret Jean" <[log in to unmask]> 1/29/2010 1:14 PM >>>
    > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
    >
    > Note what Paleography is being replaced with.
    > What use are text-based projects without a paleographer?
    > Meg
    >
    >
    > Job posting: three Project Research Associates required
    >
    > [With apologies for cross-posting]
    >
    > The Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London is
    looking
    > for three highly motivated and technically sophisticated individuals
    > to work on
    > its text-based research projects. The positions will involve using
    computer
    > tools and methods to facilitate digital scholarship.
    >
    > CCH is both a department with responsibility for its own academic
    programme
    > and a research centre promoting the appropriate application of
    > computing in
    > humanities research. Its research projects cover a wide range of
    humanities
    > disciplines, including medieval studies, history, literature and
    linguistics,
    > and music, and also include a number of more general information
    management
    > projects in both humanities and the social sciences.
    >
    > The successful candidates will possess strong analytical and problem
    solving
    > skills: they will be required to identify and engage with the core
    scholarly
    > questions in a highly collaborative research context; to analyse a
    > wide variety
    > of humanities materials and to model them using XML-related
    > technologies; to
    > design and develop systems for editing and delivering text-based scholarly
    > materials and to collaborate in the design of integrated HTML-based
    > publication. Experience in creating and manipulating XML documents in
    > a range
    > of XML-related standards and technologies (DTDs, XPath, XSLT) is highly
    > desirable, in particular textual materials encoded according to the Text
    > Encoding Initiative's guidelines.
    >
    > All successful candidates will need to have a good understanding of how
    > research is conducted in the humanities and social sciences and will be
    > expected to make a strong contribution to the departmental research
    profile.
    > They will need to be able to work effectively as part of a team, as
    > well as
    > independently. They must have good communication skills and the
    > ability to
    > document their work in clear written English.
    >
    > One position is for one year on Fixed Term Contract (Maternity Cover)
    > - within
    > the Grade 5 scale, currently 28,074 to 32,176, inclusive of London
    > Allowance.
    >
    > Two positions are for one year on Fixed Term Contract - within the
    > Grade 6
    > scale, currently 30,070 to 39,038 per annum, inclusive of London
    Allowance.
    >
    > Closing date: 12th February 2010
    >
    > Please view and apply for positions at the following URLs:
    >
    >
    http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/pertra/vacancy/external/pers_detail.php?jobindex
    =8594
    >
    > and
    >
    http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/pertra/vacancy/external/pers_detail.php?jobindex
    =8595
    >
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------
    > Paul Spence
    > Project Manager (Digital Text)
    > Centre for Computing in the Humanities
    > King's College London
    > 26-29 Drury Lane
    > London
    > WC2B 5RL
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