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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear all, Yet again, I'm appealing to the collective creativity and wisdom of the list for some opinions about two little puzzles I have. Both concern the rite for blessing scrip and staff and cross that seems to have characterized the rite of departing crusaders. First, would there be anything preventing a crusader from undergoing the blessing on multiple occasions? The sources are a bit middles (or, perhpas, more accurately, I am a bit muddled by the soures), but I am currently under the impression that Louis IX had scrip and staff blessed on three separate occasions. Second, in RP13 (Andrieu's Roman Pontifical of the Thirteenth Century) there is a very nice rite for the blessing of pilgrim/crusader (no. XX). The two rubrics I want some thoughts about are the following: "Benedictio pere et baculi peregrinantium que non est in ordinario domini pape" and then "Super crucem eis qui iturus est in Ierosolimam dicatur.... Oratio que non est in papali ordinario". I guess I just don't understand what it means to "not be in the papal pontifical" in a strict sense. Franz (1909) suggested that for the pilgirm rite it made sense since pilgrims were going*to* Rome, and thus it wouldn't appear in Roman books. But that doesn't make sense for the crusader blessing, and the rubric is very clear about who is meant. Does anybody have any thoughts? Surely, the pope - a pope - must have done blessed pilgrim/crusaders. Does anybody have any thoughts? As ever, cecilia ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html