Drovers would probably have been drawn from the areas of origin of the beasts -in Scotland, Highlanders drove cattle down to the great fairs along the edge of the Highland line - any travelling further south would be taken by lowlanders who would also collect beasts from the lowlands and Southern Uplands if they were travelling into England. There is a place in Lancashire, up on the edge of the Forest of Bowland, called Scotland Green - one theory is that it was stopping point for droves of cattle coming down from Scotland. -----Original Message----- From: British archaeology discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Wood Sent: 20 January 2010 10:50 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Porthmon Ffordd Perhaps the welsh had a specialism as being drovers and that they were employed for their skills right across the country. A bit like the fact that Cornish tin miners were employed in digging the tunnels under the Palmerstonian forts on Portsdown Hill, Portsmouth. ________________________________ From: pmgb <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wed, 20 January, 2010 10:37:49 Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Porthmon Ffordd via hampshire? seems a bit of a long way round? unless these were welsh drovers working routes other than from Wales? P Nikki Cook wrote: > Not lost....they were on their way to London. > > > _____________________________ > > Dr Nikki Cook MIfA > > Senior Heritage Consultant > > Phone: +44 (0)1722 326867 > Wessex Archaeology > Wessex Archaeology Ltd. Portway House, Old Sarum Park, Salisbury, Wilts. SP4 6EB > Tel No:- +44 (0)1722 326867 Fax No:- +44 (0)1722 337562 Website: www.wessexarch.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: British archaeology discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of pmgb > Sent: 20 January 2010 10:28 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Porthmon Ffordd > > I wonder what Welsh drovers would be doing in hampshire? Were they lost? > > P G-B > > lband wrote: > >> Hello >> New to these lists... >> >> I had a vague memory of having one pointed out to me in Hampshire, so googled and here it is >> http://www.hampshirescountryside.co.uk/site/what-to-see-and-do/towns-and-villages/stockbridge >> http://www.hampshire-information.co.uk/towns.asp?Town=Stockbridge >> >> Perhaps not relevant to your needs, because it's on a route from Wales (there's still a sign in Welsh in the village) but thought I'd send the link anyway.... >> >> Lara Band >> ('Underemployed' field archaeologist on the Åland Islands) >> >> >> >> >> Nicholson, Andrew wrote: >> >>> A colleague is looking for information on drove roads in England. We >>> have information for Scotland, and the very north-west of England down >>> to Appleby and Kirkby Lonsdale, but they are looking for further >>> information on the routes down to Smithfield and East Anglia (where most >>> of our 18th century cattle appear to have been sent). >>> Trusting the list will come up trumps again. >>> >>> With thanks >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> Andrew Nicholson >>> HER Officer >>> Dumfries and Galloway Council >>> Planning and Environment (Archaeology) >>> Newall Terrace, Dumfries, DG1 1LW >>> Tel: 01387 260154 (int. 64154) >>> Fax: 01387 260149 >>> + <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> . Drop Point 228 >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Any email message sent or received by the Council may >>> require to be disclosed by the Council under the provisions >>> of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> P SAVE PAPER - Please do not print this e-mail unless absolutely >>> necessary >>> >>> > > This email and any attachments is intended for the named recipient only. If you have received it in error you have no authority to use, disclose, store or copy any of its contents and you should destroy it and inform the sender. Nothing in the email amounts to a legal commitment on our part unless confirmed by a signed communication. Whilst this email and associated attachments will have been checked for known viruses whilst within the Natural England systems, we can accept no responsibility once it has left our systems. Communications on Natural England systems may be monitored and/or recorded to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes.