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Hi I don't think that's quite the case, e-portfolios can be utilised for multiple purposes, or one, depending upon user needs. If someone has an e-portfolio by using functions available within Moodle only - as may or may not be the case given the headline of this topic - some tools would allow learners to edit assessor comments, if the learner has editing rights. If a separate e-portfolio tool is utilised, or different Moodle functions are used, then the learner can have ownership....as I mentioned in my e-mail below! Regarding e-portfolios as assessment tools - I recognise this varies between levels and institutions, but if the websites of various awarding bodies are viewed, there are lots which allow and encourage the use of e-portfolios for assessment, and some for summative assessment only.... We all have different uses of e-portfolios, and that variety of use can only make them more useful, to a wider variety of user. Fiona -----Original Message----- From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ray Tolley Sent: 12 November 2009 11:44 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VLES] which Moodle portfolio?? - Email found in subject - Email found in subject Hi, Fiona, Is not the assumption that we use *different* e-Portfolios for different purposes a bit antiquated now? See my post: http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-many-different-e-portfolios.ht ml Secondly, there is no problem with editing verifier/assessor comments if you use a 'proper' e-Portfolio rather than some sort of blog. And of course, the next step is that of verification of credentials which is currently being addressed in FE through MIAP and will eventually apply to all learners. http://www.miap.gov.uk/fe/ However, I think that there is a serious and general confusion that the e-Portfolio should be used as an assessment tool - 'formative', yes, 'summative', no. Surely, the correct place for 'hard-wired' assessments is within the VLE? The e-Portfolio can then be used freely for informal comment, feedback from tutors and peers until, if needed, artefacts from the e-Portfolio are exported back to the VLE - where all bona fide evidences must remain and be archived. Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD ICT Education Consultant Maximise ICT Ltd P: <http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/> http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/ B: <http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/> http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/ W: <http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm> http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009' From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mylchreest, Fiona Sent: 12 November 2009 11:03 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VLES] which Moodle portfolio?? - Email found in subject Hi I think another question is what the definition of an e-portfolio is for this discussion. If it is as an assessment e-portfolio and the learner owns it - there is the potential for them to be able to edit assessor and verifier comments (depending upon which e-portfolio tools are used and how assessment is done) which would make providers and awarding bodies rather nervous! There need to be some lines of demarcation to ensure this cannot happen. If it's as an e-portfolio of learners experiences, and work which is not assessed within the e-portfolio itself, and therefore it doesn't matter whether a learner can edit everything, then it is learner owned. Fiona -----Original Message----- From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Matt Wingfield Sent: 12 November 2009 10:43 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VLES] which Moodle portfolio?? - Email found in subject Hi Niki, I think I would tend to agree with Ray here, in that if the e-portfolio is to be a personal and portable resource for the student, then it needs to be 'owned' by the student and thus avoiding student access being purely tied to the institution owned VLE. However, clearly from the institution's point of view, they'll want a system that can be seamlessly integrated into their VLE to provide teachers (and students) access to all of the e-portfolio functionality when working at the institution, and to provide aggregated views of the students' work in the context of class/course groups etc. This is the approach that we try to take with our own coursework assessment e-portfolio system (MAPS) that we supply to schools and colleges, where the system is entirely web-services based, i.e. a collection of web 2.0 assessment tools that can either be brought together in a range of ways to meet the requirements of the different types of user - seamlessly within the VLE for the institution and as a stand-alone system for the student, which they can take with them as they move around from institution to institution. I guess the other factor that needs to be kept in mind here is how you are defining an e-portfolio, as this term means a myriad of things to different people. In essence there seem to be two main types, self-reflective e-portfolios such as Mahara and PebblePad and then more assessment focused systems such as MAPS and Paperfree. However, my personal view is that which ever type of system you are after, it has to work in different ways for different types of user and provide both the institution and individual with what they need out of a system like this. Does this help? Kind regards, Matt Wingfield Business Development Director TAG Developments www.tagdevelopments.com -----Original Message----- From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ray Tolley Sent: 12 November 2009 10:21 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VLES] which Moodle portfolio?? Hi, Niki, May I question your thinking? Despite accepted institutional thinking, I see no reason why the e-Portfolio should be embedded *IN* the VLE. Surely, if the learner's e-Portfolio is to be learner-owned and fully portable from one institution to another or on to the workplace, then it should be independent of any VLE? Kind Regards, Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD ICT Education Consultant Maximise ICT Ltd P: http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/ B: http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/ W: http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009' -----Original Message----- From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of niki lambropoulos Sent: 12 November 2009 09:26 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [VLES] which Moodle portfolio?? 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