Lesley
As you say, there is no standard way of tiering institutions globally. When
we were starting the Ringgold database, we looked at all the possible
metrics used and none of them are consistent or global (even Carnegie and
JISC are skewed because they are based on type of academic institution and
government funding). At Ringgold we eventually took the HighWire Shop for
Journal tiers and have modified them to come up with a standard tier that we
apply to the 155,000 institutions (and parts of institutions) in our
database. Publishers are starting to use this as the basis for their pricing
as it is open and consistent). The NISO Working Group on Institutional
Identifiers is also working on assigning unique identifiers to institutions
which can then be consistently linked to a standard tier that is applied by
all publishers and agents.
Here's hoping
Helen
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Subject: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] FW: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] Adis Introduces Tiered
Pricing for 2010
Hi,
Just another few comments on all these different pricing policies that have
been appearing in the past few years.
Despite my concerns about tiered pricing based on type of institution
(primarily because there seem to be different models of tiered pricing and
it's not always clear which one we fit in) e.g. the Carnegie classification,
I do feel that this is a fairer system and requires less work than using
relevant FTEs which can change year on year, plus I assume the same is true
for our agents and the publishers themselves?
Is it not time for a universal tier classification so that each
institution/organization can be assigned a Tier (just like each HE
institution in the UK has a published JISC Band)? which would be published
negating the need for negotiating which FTEs are relevant and providing a
place that publishers could access when needing to assign Tiers to
institutions and where agents could find out what tiers to assign to each of
their clients subscriptions? Maybe it's a pipedream, but it seems
increasingly necessary if maintaining subscriptions to journals isn't going
to become a total nightmare (if not already) as more and more publishers
adopt different systems of pricing.
We have standards for usage statistics, standards for journal transfers,
what about a standard for differential journal pricing?
Cheers
Lesley
Lesley Crawshaw
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Sent: 05 November 2009 07:36
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Subject: RE: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] Adis Introduces Tiered Pricing for 2010
Hi B-C,
I understand that ADIS looks like it is trying to make their journals more
affordable for smaller sites, which I would applaud. However, my question
(which maybe someone from ADIS can answer) is what counts as these relevant
FTEs? I have two ADIS online only subscriptions which have different and
specific audiences with our health faculty. They are not of relevance to all
the areas within our Health faculty. Is each journal going to be priced on
those specific relevant FTEs or just the total number of FTEs in our Health
faculty? From the 2010 price list it looks like it's just one figure
-probably the total number of FTEs in our Health Faculty.
I am waiting for some clarification from ADIS, but haven't heard back yet? I
urgently need to know what our 2010 costs are going to be as we are having
to make significant budget savings in our subscriptions budget for 2010 and
I need to know how much I need to save.
Cheers
Lesley
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Dear Lesley,
the difference indeed is that for AJH / NPG it is a pure extra money
making scheme whereas e.g. AIP or here ADIS try to make their
journals more affordable for smaller sites. This is only possible, if you
actually reduce prices for the smaller sites. Of course, AJH applied
to its base price a standard inflationary increase, while raising the
prices for all sites > 500 FTE (or > 100 FTE for Government &
research institutions). ADIS takes indeed "relevant FTEs across the
fealth faculties" while NPG takes irrelevant Sciences FTE across all
faculties.
Cheers,
Bernd-Christoph
Crawshaw, Lesley A schrieb:
> Hi B-C,
>
> Whilst I can't comment on the American Journal of Hypertension, it will
probably be down to the need for the journal to be "competitively priced"
something I seem to hear a lot these days when a publisher wants to
significantly increase its charges for a particular product! It's
unfortunate given the current financial climate that some publishers are
continuing to push journal prices beyond what some of us can afford.
>
> I am not a great fan of tiered pricing myself as it introduces an extra
element of complexity when managing subscriptions (I assume also for the
agents and the publishers themselves). If one had a definitive tier assigned
it would be OK, but we seem to find publishers putting us in a variety of
tiers. However, it does at least recognise that different institutions make
different uses of particular journals and that that should be somehow be
reflected in the cost that institutions pay for online products.
>
> I've just found out that Adis (not from Adis themselves I hasten to add)
is introducing a new three-tiered pricing model for 2010 based on the number
of relevant FTEs - http://adisonline.com/home/documents/pricelist2010.pdf
which promises reductions for the lowest two bands.
>
> It's not clear what FTEs are going to be considered relevant, but I do
hope that it's not just based on crude FTEs which lumps together
undergraduate and postgraduate students and researchers as if their use of
the literature was the same.
>
> I have never understood why Nature Physics uses the same relevant FTEs as
Nature Medicine or Nature Neuroscience. Maybe we should call these
irrelevant FTEs!
>
> Cheers
> Lesley
>
>
> Lesley Crawshaw
> Knowledge & Business Intelligence Consultant
> Information Hertfordshire
> University of Hertfordshire
> Tel: 01707 285508
>
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> Subject: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] American Journal of Hypertension (NPG)
increases site license prices for 2010 by up to 55%
>
> [Please excuse duplicate reception]
>
> Tired of tiered pricing?
>
> In response to the ICOLC Statement on the Global Economic Crisis
> and Its Impact on Consortial Licenses (or not?) the American Journal
> of Hypertension, since 2008 published with Nature Publishing Group,
> has apparently now introduced tiered pricing and thereby will increase
> its site license price for academic institutions in between 19% to 55%,
> depending on Sciences FTE. For the lowest FTE price bracket,
> 1-499 FTE, price will increase by a mere 3% (near the median price
> increase of NPG academic journals for 2010). 2010 site license prices
> are now USD 986 / 807 EUR / GBP 519 (UK,ROW) for 10000+
> FTE, the base price in the lowest bracket is USD 657 / EUR 538 /
> GBP 346. The price increase of AJH from 2008 to 2009 had been 11%.
> The journal publishes 12 issues/year with ca. 1350 p.
>
> In the Thomson Reuters Journal Citation Reports, category "Peripheral
> Vascular Disease", AJH is ranked #19 out of 56 in Impact factor
> (2008: 3,122), and #12 in Eigenfactor score (behind journals like
> Hypertension (American Heart Association / LWW), Journal of
> Hypertension (International and European Society of Hypertension /
> LWW), and Am J Physiol C-Heart (American Physiological Society).
>
> (Note that the current pricing calculator at
> http://www.nature.com/libraries/site_licenses/pricing.html
> displays for this title tiered pricing for 2009 also, so that no price
> change becomes apparent in comparing 2009 and 2010 price levels,
> which are displayed side by side.
> However, I happened to find an archived output of May 15, 2009 from
> the pricing calculator on the web at the Kenezy Life Sciences Library,
> University of Debrecen, Hungary, that confirmed our previous pricing)
>
> The two sister journals from this field at NPG, Hypertension Research
> (Japanese Society of Hypertension Research, 7% price increase for
> 2010) and the Journal of Human Hypertension (3,5% price increase
> for 2010), desisted from introducing tiered pricing so far. Through NPG,
> both provide free access after 5 years, AJH has a closed archive (just
> like the Journal of Hypertension, too). For comparison: Hypertension
> and Am. J. Physiol. C-Heart provide free access after 12 months.
>
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