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Dear Jean Luc,

Since your first mail have I been searching on Google, but have so 
far not found a match.
Possible forms of the name in Latin and Italian are multiple.
Your reference, however, does at least give a confirmation that such 
a text did exist,
and was known in France.  Even when they does not agree on his name.
It is difficult to date a single leaf, but from the decoration will I 
say c.1450-1475,
that is before a possible printed edition of the text, if it ever was printed.

  Thank you very much!
  Cordialement
  Eric

At 9:26 +0200 30/08/09, pecia wrote:
>Sur le passage du Livre d'heures en question voir par exemple le ms 
>Carpentras 1791 (Collection Pereisc) :
>« Antiquitez françoises ou extraits de divers antiens historiens 
>concernans l'histoire antienne de France » , f. 156v :
>"D'après Jacques de Pavie, grâces attachées « à ouïr messe dévotement » ...
>
>Je ne sais s'il s'agit de Jacques de Pavie, le cardinal, archidiacre 
>d'Aunis, qui fut conseiller de Sixte IV, ou d'un autre, plus ancien 
>...
>
>jean luc deuffic
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Erik Drigsdahl
>To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:21 PM
>Subject: [M-R] Maistre Jacques de Paule
>
>
>Dear List,
>
>Could anybody please help me to identify the author "Jacques de Paule"
>("Master in decrees, and theological doctor") ? (Jacobus de Pauli?)
>
>He is only known to me from a leaf from a Book of Hours that now has been
>for sale for more than a month.  (see links below)
>The text is about the benefits obtained by attending mass.
>He invoke the opinions of Augustinus "and all the other holy church fathers".
>
>Transcript below. At the moment do I not have time to furnish a 
>proper translation, but could
>furnish one later, if so needed.
>A discussion of the contents could easily sparkle another topic on the list,
>but it is not my primary concern.
>
>Thanks
>Erik Drigsdahl
>
>My transcription/
>Ce sont les vertus et proffis que len peut acquerir a oyr devotement 
>une messe.
>
>Maistre iacques de paule solennel maistre en decret et docteur en theologie
>dit et raconte en ses escriptures que mon seigneur saint augustin, 
>et tous les autres
>sains docteurs s'accordent a ceste oppinion que a oyr la messe devotement
>sont en especial donneez graces et vertus qui cy apres ensuivent,
>des quelles la premiere est celle:
>
>Se tu avoyes vendu et mis a deniers tant d'espace de terre comme //
>tu pourroies aler et marchier de tes piez en autant de temps comme le prestre
>aura mis a dire et celebrer une messe, et tu avoyes tout ce donne 
>[donne] pour dieu,
>tu n'aurayes mie pource prins si grant proufit comme d'avoir oye la messe par
>bonne devocion.
>
>Item tant comme dire la messe que aucune personne ot devotement
>pour le salut des ames sont relachez des peines de purgatoire.
>
>Item la personne qui au iourduy ot messe devotement et l'entant //
>
>(this leaf is a singleton without provenance, and the continuation is unknown)
>
>Links:
>MANUSCRIT PARCHEMIN LIVRE DE HEURE FRANCE CA. 1450 #7S
>Item=200368448655
>Recto:
>http://www.neumann-walter.de/NW/JULI2009/03.07.09/16.jpg
>Verso:
>http://www.neumann-walter.de/NW/JULI2009/03.07.09/20.jpg

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