Interestingly I have noticed there has historically been little
acceptance of many proportionality matters where various existing
national registers/databases were concerned.
Generally extremes are inevitably used to justify/stifle opposing
arguments in most debates and as such are frequently used politically.
Because of those issues narrowing the scope to a single thread which
contains some of the most emotionally extreme arguments available
substantially weakens the debate; This is especially true where
personal data is concerned, because as everybody on this list is aware
purposes are not (irrespective of how well defined) stable and finite
things, function creep always appears and is often planned for by some
in advance.
I for one, therefore do not believe, even after giving regard to areas
other than crime (which is acknowledged as one of the many exemptions
available), that any greater purpose is served by limiting the focus of
the DNA database debate, in a similar fashion I suspect many who feel
they would wish to see a national DNA database, would no doubt not want
to see any undue limitations on purpose applied to such a database.
Ian W
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> chris pounder
> Sent: 07 May 2009 09:37
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] National DNA Database
>
>
> On www.amberhawk.com (public policy downloads), I have made
available
>
> (a) the data protection analysis I did for Marper's legal
> team in the ground breaking ECHR case
>
> (b) evidence to the Joint Committee on Human Rights re the
> new clauses in the Policing and Crime Bill which give effect
> to the whatever the Government eventually decides it wants to
> happen with DNA
>
> Both explain that because DNA is kept on criminals, a DNA
> data base that scans the whole population is almost
> inevitable. My own view is that this should be the only issue
> of debate.
>
>
> Dr. C. N. M. Pounder
> Director, Amberhawk Training Ltd
> Phone: 0845 680 2623 or Mob: 07735 365 585
>
>
> www.amberhawk.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Ibrahim Hasan
> Sent: 07 May 2009 08:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] National DNA Database
>
> Ministers are to trim up to 850,000 DNA profiles from the current
> total of 4.5m on a national database after a court ruled innocent
> people must be removed.
>
> Those arrested, but later released or acquitted, will have their
> profiles wiped after between six and 12 years.
>
> Officials warned the changes could reduce the number of crimes
solved.
>
> But opposition parties accused the government of "giving as
> little as
> possible" in response to the European Court of Human Rights
judgement.
>
> Last year the court ruled that the database in England and
> Wales' was
> illegal - unlike Scotland's which was deemed "fair and
proportionate".
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8037042.stm
Ibrahim Hasan
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