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sexism aside, I thought Fredrick's little 'critique' was a good read. people always seem to get defensive when someone speaks their mind with less than the so-called adequate amount of propriety & PC-grace. a thick skin helps turn what looks like a bash attack into something to either ignore or learn from, if possible. KS 2008/10/6 Barry Alpert <[log in to unmask]> > "Ann Lauterbach > Ruth and David E. Schwab Professor of Languages and Literature > > Program(s): Integrated Arts, Literature, Writing Program in Fiction and > Poetry > > B.A., University of Wisconsin, Madison. Woodrow Wilson Fellow, Columbia > University. > Teacher and director of the literature program at the Institute of > Contemporary Arts. > Books include If in Time (2001); On a Stair (1997); And For Example (1994); > Clamor > (1991); Before Recollection (1987); Many Times, But Then (1979). > Contributing editor, > Conjunctions (1981– ). Wrote column "The Night Sky" in American Poetry > Review. Grants: > New York State Foundation for the Arts, Ingram Merrill Foundation, > Guggenheim > Foundation, MacArthur Fellowship (1993). Faculty, Milton Avery Graduate > School of the > Arts and Center for Curatorial Studies. (1997– ) David and Ruth Schwab > Professor of > Languages and Literature." > > > Will Poetryetc's "board" post the list's language regarding sexism. That > phrase "meaty > masterpiece", within a context which can't be regarded as literary > criticism and more > closely resembles jealous personal assault (repeated from "before"), needs > serious > consideration. > > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:45:32 -0400 Frederic Pollack wrote: > > This is really really really terrible. The word "light" - usually > pronounced, at readings, > with a kind of tearful gurgle before the l and a breathy-ecstatic gasp > after the t; the "you" > interpolated like a bumper between speaker and reader; the gassy-ethereal > non-situation > and non-emotions; the emphasis on "images" - otherwise she'd haveta mention > "language" --- I've noticed this poet before; she seems to be respected by > po-biz flacks. > And why not? In her, Langpo meaningless mates elegantly with Mainstream > triviality. > > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:51:35 -0400, Frederick Pollack <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > >Sorry - in my remarks on the Lauterbach poem, I meant to say "Mainstream > >meaninglessness." -- After that meaty masterpiece of hers, these two > recent > >ones of mine (no doubt overmasculinist, unpleasantly "closed," > depressingly > >retrograde) may serve as a ... sorbet. >