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sexism aside, I thought Fredrick's little 'critique' was a good read.
people always seem to get defensive when someone speaks their mind with less
than the so-called adequate amount of propriety & PC-grace. a thick skin
helps turn what looks like a bash attack into something to either ignore or
learn from, if possible.

KS

2008/10/6 Barry Alpert <[log in to unmask]>

> "Ann Lauterbach
> Ruth and David E. Schwab Professor of Languages and Literature
>
> Program(s): Integrated Arts, Literature, Writing Program in Fiction and
> Poetry
>
> B.A., University of Wisconsin, Madison. Woodrow Wilson Fellow, Columbia
> University.
> Teacher and director of the literature program at the Institute of
> Contemporary Arts.
> Books include If in Time (2001); On a Stair (1997); And For Example (1994);
> Clamor
> (1991); Before Recollection (1987); Many Times, But Then (1979).
> Contributing editor,
> Conjunctions (1981 ). Wrote column "The Night Sky" in American Poetry
> Review. Grants:
> New York State Foundation for the Arts, Ingram Merrill Foundation,
> Guggenheim
> Foundation, MacArthur Fellowship (1993). Faculty, Milton Avery Graduate
> School of the
> Arts and Center for Curatorial Studies. (1997 ) David and Ruth Schwab
> Professor of
> Languages and Literature."
>
>
> Will Poetryetc's "board" post the list's language regarding sexism.  That
> phrase "meaty
> masterpiece", within a context which can't be regarded as literary
> criticism and more
> closely resembles jealous personal assault (repeated from "before"), needs
> serious
> consideration.
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:45:32 -0400 Frederic Pollack wrote:
>
> This is really really really terrible.  The word "light" - usually
> pronounced, at readings,
> with a kind of tearful gurgle before the l and a breathy-ecstatic gasp
> after the t; the "you"
> interpolated like a bumper between speaker and reader; the gassy-ethereal
> non-situation
> and non-emotions; the emphasis on "images" - otherwise she'd haveta mention
> "language" --- I've noticed this poet before; she seems to be respected by
> po-biz flacks.
> And why not?  In her, Langpo meaningless mates elegantly with Mainstream
> triviality.
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:51:35 -0400, Frederick Pollack <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> >Sorry - in my remarks on the Lauterbach poem, I meant to say "Mainstream
> >meaninglessness."  -- After that meaty masterpiece of hers, these two
> recent
> >ones of mine (no doubt overmasculinist, unpleasantly "closed,"
> depressingly
> >retrograde) may serve as a ... sorbet.
>