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Her professional accomplishments are beside the point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Alpert" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: 2 poems "Ann Lauterbach Ruth and David E. Schwab Professor of Languages and Literature Program(s): Integrated Arts, Literature, Writing Program in Fiction and Poetry B.A., University of Wisconsin, Madison. Woodrow Wilson Fellow, Columbia University. Teacher and director of the literature program at the Institute of Contemporary Arts. Books include If in Time (2001); On a Stair (1997); And For Example (1994); Clamor (1991); Before Recollection (1987); Many Times, But Then (1979). Contributing editor, Conjunctions (1981- ). Wrote column "The Night Sky" in American Poetry Review. Grants: New York State Foundation for the Arts, Ingram Merrill Foundation, Guggenheim Foundation, MacArthur Fellowship (1993). Faculty, Milton Avery Graduate School of the Arts and Center for Curatorial Studies. (1997- ) David and Ruth Schwab Professor of Languages and Literature." Will Poetryetc's "board" post the list's language regarding sexism. That phrase "meaty masterpiece", within a context which can't be regarded as literary criticism and more closely resembles jealous personal assault (repeated from "before"), needs serious consideration. On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:45:32 -0400 Frederic Pollack wrote: This is really really really terrible. The word "light" - usually pronounced, at readings, with a kind of tearful gurgle before the l and a breathy-ecstatic gasp after the t; the "you" interpolated like a bumper between speaker and reader; the gassy-ethereal non-situation and non-emotions; the emphasis on "images" - otherwise she'd haveta mention "language" --- I've noticed this poet before; she seems to be respected by po-biz flacks. And why not? In her, Langpo meaningless mates elegantly with Mainstream triviality. On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:51:35 -0400, Frederick Pollack <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Sorry - in my remarks on the Lauterbach poem, I meant to say "Mainstream >meaninglessness." -- After that meaty masterpiece of hers, these two >recent >ones of mine (no doubt overmasculinist, unpleasantly "closed," depressingly >retrograde) may serve as a ... sorbet.