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I would second Tom Izbicki's recommendation of Schaffern, since the theology
and practice of indulgences impacted the redemption of crusade vows (and
concepts of crusade indulgences, of course!).  Schaffern is the best modern
thing out there on indulgences.

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From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jessalynn
Bird
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [M-R] Redemption of Crusading Vows - question


medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture 
Dear Cecilia,
 
Sorry for the delayed reply.  What period was the vow redemption from?
(This makes a big difference both in theory and in practice--as far as both
can be surmised).  
 
Maureen Purcell's _Papal Policy_ and Elizabeth Siberry's _Criticism of the
Crusades_ have some useful information too (in addition to Brundage and
Maier), although a systematic study of redemptions has yet to be done.
 
By the way,  I just read your book on Louis IX with much interest.  It is
absolutely magnificent!
 
Sincerely,
 
Jessalynn

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From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cecilia
Gaposchkin
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:20 AM
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Subject: [M-R] Redemption of Crusading Vows - question


medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture 


Dear all,

I have just been reading about the redemption of crusading vows.  One well
documented case involving a nobleman's redemption involved his payment of a
sum of money great enough to fund one miles for one year to go to the holy
land. For this, the nobleman received his plenary indulgence.

Can someone tell me about the said "miles" who would go in the nobleman's
stead. Would he received the spiritual benefits of crusading? Would he get a
plenary indulgence? Is this a kind of "two for one" deal?  Or would the sum
for the redemption, so calculated, be actually sent to the curial war chest,
rather than actually fund a replacement crusader.

Thoughts and knowledge will be appreciated. 

thanks
cecilia

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