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Dear Nikos,

 

sorry for bothering you with the following question: I would like to use
non-stationary RFT for my VBM analysis but I got confused when I compare
the results obtained by Dr. Hayasaka's NS toolbox with the results
obtained by the normal spm_results_ui or Christian Gaser's
non-stationarity correction implemented in the VBM5 toolbox.

In a two-sample t test I found one significant cluster by using a
primary threshold of p <0.01 and a FWE-corrected extent threshold of
0.05:

1) Normal stationary RFT shows me a corrected p of 0.021 (k=6066) for
this cluster.

2) The NS toolbox calculates a corrected p value of  0.010 (k=6066,
resels=5.316). It seems as if k refers to the stationary RFT results...?



In this case, k refers to the number of voxels. In the NS toolbox the
corrected p-values are calculated based on RESELs rather than the number
of voxels, but k is displayed for reporting purpose.

 

3) Christian Gaser's toolbox produces a corrected p value of 0.009
(k=7019). Why is the p value so much lower compared to the NS
toolbox...?



The difference between the p-values is small (p=0.010 vs. p=0.009) but I
see that the number of voxels (k) is different as well. If the primary
threshold is the same in both analyses, I suspect there may be some
differences between the statistic images from the NS toolbox and the
VBM5 toolbox. Has the data been processed the same or differently in
both analyses (template creation, normalization, segmentation,
smoothing, etc)? 

 

Do you if there is any way to input the adjusted cluster sizes to the
cluster labeling routine of AAL?

The gin_cluster_plabels script of the AAL toolbox is similar to
spm_list.m. I highlighted the line where I would make corrections but I
am not sure...I don't know how to pass the non-uniformity adjusted XYZ
to gin_det_plabels. 



I am not familiar with AAL, but the NS toolbox does not alter XYZ. In
other words, it doesn't create the non-uniformity adjusted XYZ.

 

Hope this helps,

-Satoru

 

Satoru Hayasaka PhD ----------
Assistant Professor, Public Health Sciences & Radiology
Wake Forest University School of Medicine
(ph) +1-336-716-8504 / (fax) +1-336-716-0798
(email) shayasak _at_ wfubmc _dot_ edu