Artichoke & Carrot Soup Jerusalem Artichokes, not Globe. Twice weight of artichoke tubas to carrots. Boil artichokes in skins for 25 mins. Boil carrots separately. When artichokes are soft Cut open and scoop out their white hearts. Place carrots and artichoke hearts together in a bowl and blend with a blender, adding vegetable stock as you blend. Add crushed garlic and, either fresh parsley or coriander but not together. Soup should be smooth and orange-pink in colour. Best eaten with fresh bread And your lover. Best, Rupert ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Weiss To: RUPERT MALLIN ; [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 5:04 PM Subject: Re: 20th Century Long Poems Recipe? (seriously) Nobody's mentioned the problem with short poems. They're so...short. Mark At 11:41 AM 1/6/2008, RUPERT MALLIN wrote: Brilliant! I've done some 'group' poetry readings recently and before the readings I've said to the other three poets: We read just three poems each. Agreed?" They agree. Then some sort of weird red poetry mist descends on each of them and they read four or five poems each. Worse, the introductions to their poems are longer than the poems themselves! Actually, it would be brilliant if the readings just consisted of their introductions with the poems taken out, replaced by silence or my excellent recipe for artichoke and carrot soup. Best, Rupert ----- Original Message ----- From: mairead byrne To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: 20th Century Long Poems So much of this seems to be decided by the technology. Like I've always believed the 30-line lyric relates directly to the A4 page (or whatever you geezers call it over there: your 30-line lyrics are probably a bit longer). The first poetry workshop I ever took was with Eavan Boland. She posed a question: "How do you know when the poem is finished?" I *always* knew when the poem was finished: when I got to the end of the page. The length issue also applies to poetry readings. For a few years I flirted with the idea that a poetry reading could never be too short. So each time I read I shaved a few minutes off. Eventually I was flying to California, like, & delivering 9 minute readings! I realised that, yeah, a reading could be too short. Distance, familiariarity, social considerations also weigh in. But the point roughly applies: 5-7 mins is probably plenty for any reader who's traveled less than 3,000 miles (except in cases of severe snowstorms of course, then poetry could be comfort food or gas (petrol) or Red Bull (Lucozade)! Mairead (rhymes with ....) On Jan 6, 2008 10:50 AM, GILES GOODLAND < [log in to unmask]> wrote: while we're at it, can I say how much I dislike middle length poems? mairead byrne <[log in to unmask] > wrote: we love poetry yup! On Jan 6, 2008 9:50 AM, cris cheek < [log in to unmask]> wrote: here here On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:02 AM, mairead byrne wrote: I don't know about the longest but they're nearly all too long. Mairead On Jan 6, 2008 3:27 AM, GILES GOODLAND < [log in to unmask] > wrote: Or maybe this one qualifies? http://www.logolalia.com/cantoos/newest.html GILES GOODLAND < [log in to unmask]> wrote: doh! That's not English! "Carfagna, Richard" < [log in to unmask]> wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone would know what would be considered the longest poem written in English in the 20th century. Thanks, Ric