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a) yes b) very rarely No friction from respiratory physicians in terms of who uses or when but some discussions around the manufacturer (they prefer ones which are a bit longer than the ones we stock) Dr Steven Crane FFAEM Consultant in A&E York Hospital ________________________________ From: Accident and Emergency Academic List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of mark nicol Sent: 01 November 2007 14:10 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Seldinger type chest drains Can I ask how many departments are using seldinger type chest drains a)in spontaneous pneumothoraces and b) in traumatic pneumothoraces. Has anyone encountered interface friction with respiratory physicians when AE has tried to introduce seldinger type chest drains when the respiratory physicians have tried to say its for their domain. ________________________________ Listen now! New music from the Rogue Traders. <http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&r eferral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders >