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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture I've read and surmised that dissolution of the Templars' Order was Philippe le Bel's way of getting out of their debt; since PlB was head of the "Rois Maudits dynasty," Jacques de Molay had the last laugh. The curse is a myth. The Templars' property was given in large measure to the Knights of Saint John, hence the frequent confusion of the two Orders. MG Templars: a red cross paty on a white ground/mantle/surcotte, Hospitallers: a white cross paty on a black (later also red) ground/mantle/surcotte. Even colourblind observers may notice the difference. And after 1307/12 there would have been no more confusion at all. Henk _____ Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter 1328 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl> vandaag nog! ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html