The real issue here, as Alan has pointed out is whether there is any substance in the "complaint that section in handwritten note was missing". Whilst the typewritten "copy" does not have to be verbatim it needs to be an accurate and complete reflection. Bear in mind also that s77 FOIA applies here - once a request so specific comes in, whilst you may not be compelled to provide a photocopy, you are on shaky ground if you dispose of the handwritten notes until it is clear that the applicant is satisfied with your disclosure. Phillip Bradshaw Information Manager Clerk to the Council Room 111, County Hall EMail: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Phone: 029 2087 3346 Mobile : 07779 284684 Fax: 029 2087 3349 Proactive Publishing Promotes Positive Perceptions ________________________________ From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alan Stead Sent: 17 August 2007 15:47 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Unstructured Personal Data Tim Even handwritten notes can contain personal data however the issue on this matter is , do the typewritten notes contain all the substantive information contained in the handwritten version. If so then these can be released,. The Act does not state that particular documents should be released but data and information about the subject. This can be summarised providing none of the actual data is withheld. The complainant's statement that he asked for handwritten notes has no substance. His complaint that information has been withheld is another matter, however that information should be personal for a claim to be successful. Hope this view helps Alan Alan Stead Service Manager-Information Governance Nottingham City Council Guildhall Burton Street Nottingham NG1 4BT Tel 0115.9154943 -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Rodgers Sent: 17 August 2007 15:25 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [data-protection] Unstructured Personal Data Here's the story: Meeting between data subject, manager with notes taken by admin officer Request comes in 2 hours later for handwritten notes Treated as SAR but typewritten notes provided 40 days later Complaint that they requested handwritten notes (also complaint that section in handwritten note was missing). Is my understanding that the typewritten notes which form part of the personnel file are personal data but the handwritten notes (of which there was no intention to retain in their own form, merely to be turned into typewritten notes) are not? Durant ruling may apply here? Obviously applicant can appeal against content of handwritten notes but that isn't essentially a DPA issue (more omissions or bad record keeping). Thanks, Tim Rodgers Information Governance Manager Legal Services Chief Executives Department London Borough of Tower Hamlets Phone: 0207 364 4354 Mobile: 0796 770 5102 Fax: 0207 364 4804 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Website: http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk 2nd Floor, Town Hall, 5 Mulberry Place, London E14 2BG ********************************************************************************* Working Together for a Better Tower Hamlets Web site : http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk London Borough of Tower Hamlets E-Mail Disclaimer. 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