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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture A couple of interesting items from the Office (as found in the Liturgia Horarum) today for Peter Damien. The last sentence in the brief bio reads (in English): On his death in the year 1072 he was immediately venerated as a saint. The letter chosen as the memorial reading for Matins (Office of Readings) provides some basis for Phyllis's sentiments toward him. Among other comments, he encourages the monk to whom the letter is addressed to welcome the lash without grumbling or complaint. Stan Metheny ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wickstrom" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] Canonized Doctors of the Church > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > This is what I suspected was the case with Damien, but the phrase "never > canonized" rather than the more explicit "never formally canonized" threw me > off. There ought to be a way to describe the status of individuals who were > widely venerated but were never formally "mentioned in the canon" in a papal > liturgy. > > John B. Wickstrom > Department of History > Kalamazoo College > [log in to unmask] > > -----Original Message----- > From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Marjorie > Greene > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:25 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [M-R] Canonized Doctors of the Church > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Wrong again, MG! Bruno also was never formally canonized. (Well, I was right > about the date...) > Catholic.org (if we can trust that site) says this: > "Canonization, the process the Church uses to name a saint, has only been > used since the tenth century. For hundreds of years, starting with the first > martyrs of the early Church, saints were chosen by public acclaim. Though > this was a more democratic way to recognize saints, some saints' stories > were distorted by legend and some never existed." > MG > > > >From: Marjorie Greene <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > > culture <[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: [M-R] Canonized Doctors of the Church > >Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:18:43 -0700 > > > >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > > >The response to this question would depend on the answer to another: when > >did formal canonization arise? I wasn't able to determine this by glancing > >through the dreaded CE on line. The Big Four were probably never "formally > >canonized" either. I had it in my head that the first "formally canonized" > >saint was produced sometime in the 10th or 11th c. In fact Saint Bruno > >springs to mind. But that may be the mind's fault. > >MG > > > > > > > >Is there any other example of a > >>non-canonized doctor of the church? > >>jbw > >> > >>John B. Wickstrom > >>Department of History > >>Kalamazoo College > >>[log in to unmask] > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > >>culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Phyllis > >>Jestice > >>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:49 PM > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: [M-R] saints of the day 21. February > >> > >>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > >> > >>Today (21. February) is the feast day of: > >> > >>Eustathius (d. c. 338) Eustathius was a Pamphylian who became bishop > >>of Beroea (Syria) and in c. 324 was promoted to the see of Antioch. > >>He was a vigorous opponent of the Arians, which got him deposed in > >>330 and banished to Thrace. > >> > >>Germanus of Grandval (d. c. 667) Germanus became a monk at > >>Remiremont and then at Luxeuil. Some years later, the abbot sent G > >>on to serve as first abbot of Grandval. He got into a disagreement > >>with the local duke, who liked to plunder the three monasteries under > >>G's care---one of the duke's soldiers ran G. through with a lance. > >> > >>George of Amastris (d. c. 825) George was born near Amastris (on the > >>Black Sea). He trained as a hermit, went on to a monastery, and was > >>elected bishop of Amastris. G. refused the job, but was carried off > >>by force. > >> > >>Peter Damian (d. 1072) My source calls PD "This prophetic figure of > >>the medieval Church"; I confess that I've always found him more than > >>a little judgmental and annoying. Peter Damian studied law, then > >>went and became a monk at Fonte Avellana, where he soon became prior > >>and founded several other communities. He got involved in papal > >>politics and the reform movement, becoming cardinal-bishop of Ostia > >>in 1057. PD worked to suppress local liturgies, organized the > >>Camaldolese order, reacted against secular learning (grammar, by the > >>way, is the work of the devil), advocated a desert spirituality, etc. > >>He is perhaps the most accessible figure of the eleventh century, > >>since we have (in the modern editions) four large volumes of his > >>letters and treatises, a volume of sermons, and several > >>hagiographical works. 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