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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Off the top of my admittedly muddled head, I can say that Mary of Magdala, Mary sister of Martha and Lazarus, the woman who washed Jesus' feet and dried them with her hair, and the woman out of whom Jesus cast devils (with the woman taken in adultery sometimes thrown into the mix) were ALL conflated into one person at one time or another. I'm going to consult the dreaded CE for further clarification but I'm sure others will have something to say on the topic. MG >From: Rosemary Hayes-Milligan & Andrew Milligan ><[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > culture <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [M-R] Gentian >Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:57:39 -0000 > >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > >How common is/was it to identify Mary of Bethany with Mary Magdalene? Or >is this some other Martha? >Rosemary Hayes >----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjorie Greene" ><[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:30 PM >Subject: Re: [M-R] Gentian > > >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > >Sorry. I can't tell what she's holding and have exhausted my meager >resources for discovering the definitive symbolism of whatever flower/plant >involved. However, both images seem to have Martha presenting Mary with >choices, the flower symbolizing the good one. So even though the source for >the "virgin pride" one is from a website, it may nonetheless be the one >that >makes the most sense. One of the problems with gentian is that it >apparently >comes in a variety of colors and each one may have had its own symbolism. >Good luck, >MG > > >>From: Torie Reed <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious >>culture <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: [M-R] Gentian >>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:33:44 -0800 >> >>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture >> >>Dear Marjorie, >> >>Thank you for your responses! Yes, I've tried the >>search engines, but am a little reluctant to depend on >>the accuracy of some of these web sites, which don't >>seem very scholarly. >> >>The subject matter of the attached image is taken from >>Jehan Michel's Mystere de la Passion -- Martha is >>trying to convince Mary to give up her sinful ways. >>Caravaggio's Magdalene >>(http://www.dia.org/the_collection/overview/viewobject.asp?objectid=36204) >>is similar, except that he depicts her with an orange >>blossom. >> >>Gentian is the best identification I can come up with, >>but I'm willing to be corrected if I am wrong. >> >>Best, >>Torie >> >>--- Marjorie Greene <[log in to unmask]> >>wrote: >> >> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval >> > religion and culture >> > >> > This website: >> > >>http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/d-f/flowsym.shtml >> > has gentian as the symbol of virgin pride. For Mary >> > Magdalene...??? Symbol >> > of her repentance? >> > MG >> > p.s. All this assumes the conflation of MM with the >> > woman out of whom Jesus >> > cast devils, etc. >> > >> > >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>********************************************************************** >>To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >>to: [log in to unmask] >>To send a message to the list, address it to: >>[log in to unmask] >>To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >>to: [log in to unmask] >>In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >>[log in to unmask] >>For further information, visit our web site: >>http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > >><< RothschildMagdaleneadjustedcolor.jpg >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don't just search. Find. 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