Out of curiosity, are you ssh-ing or remote logging into a system and
running the application?
On 23 Jan 2006, at 12:00 pm, Dr Andy Herbert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> All drivers etc are now patched up to date.
>
> When using the NVidia hardware accelerated drivers:
>
> Windows open correctly without error, however when a strip is removed
> analysis crashes with the following error message:
>
>>>> GL_VENDOR = NVIDIA Corporation
> GL_RENDERER = Quadro FX 500/FX 600/AGP/SSE2
> GL_VERSION = 2.0.1 NVIDIA 81.78
> X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
> Major opcode of failed request: 144 (GLX)
> Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
> Serial number of failed request: 10600
> Current serial number in output stream: 10600
>
>
>
> When using mesa 6.4.1:
> windows open without any contours and the following error message:
>
>>>> make_current_gl_handler failed: 0
> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
> Exception in Tkinter callback
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
> return self.func(*args)
> File
> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
> WindowPopup.py", line 2768, in resize
> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
> File
> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
> WindowPopup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
> make_current_gl_handler failed: 0
> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
> Exception in Tkinter callback
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
> return self.func(*args)
> File
> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
> WindowPopup.py", line 2768, in resize
> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
> File
> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
> WindowPopup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
> make_current_gl_handler failed: 0
> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
> Exception in Tkinter callback
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
> return self.func(*args)
> File
> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
> WindowPopup.py", line 2768, in resize
> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
> File
> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
> WindowPopup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>
>
> analysis however doesn't crash when strips are removed. All the other
> openGL apps I've tried work correctly with both mesa and hardware.
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 18:55 +0000, Dr Andy Herbert wrote:
>> Hi Wayne
>>
>> I hope this error message means more to you than me!
>>
>>>>> make_current_gl_handler failed: 0
>> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
>> return self.func(*args)
>> File
>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>> WindowPopup.py", line 2768, in resize
>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>> File
>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>> WindowPopup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>> make_current_gl_handler failed: 0
>> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
>> return self.func(*args)
>> File
>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>> WindowPopup.py", line 2768, in resize
>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>> File
>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>> WindowPopup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>> make_current_gl_handler failed: 0
>> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
>> return self.func(*args)
>> File
>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>> WindowPopup.py", line 2768, in resize
>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>> File
>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>> WindowPopup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 18:12 +0000, Wayne Boucher wrote:
>>> Right, I think the only way for it to have failed there is for
>>> make_current_gl_handler() to have failed. And I've not known
>>> that to fail
>>> (except silently, i.e. it fails but says it has not failed, in
>>> which case
>>> GL crashes). So this is a puzzle. Now in make_current_gl_handler
>>> () there
>>> are the lines:
>>>
>>> if (!ok || !(glGetError() == GL_NO_ERROR))
>>> return CCPN_FALSE;
>>>
>>> you could change that to:
>>>
>>> if (!ok) /* removed glGetError() */
>>> {
>>> printf("make_current_gl_handler failed: %d\n", glGetError());
>>> return CCPN_FALSE;
>>> }
>>>
>>> and see if it works (re-compile as usual in ccpnmr1.0/c). If
>>> that fails
>>> (and it probably will) then we are probably stuffed. But it
>>> would be
>>> interesting to know what the error code is. (I'll have to try
>>> and find
>>> where that information is stored, what they mean.)
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Dr Andy Herbert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I modified gl_handler.c as described, including the following
>>>> amongst
>>>> others:
>>>>
>>>> if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
>>>> {
>>>> FREE(gl_handler_p, struct Gl_handler_p);
>>>> printf("Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))\n");
>>>>
>>>> return NULL;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> This is where the printf function is printed:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>> __call__
>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>> File
>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>>>> WindowPo pup.py", line 2768, in resize
>>>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>>>> File
>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>>>> WindowPo pup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>>>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>>>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>>> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>> __call__
>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>> File
>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>>>> WindowPo pup.py", line 2768, in resize
>>>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>>>> File
>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>>>> WindowPo pup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>>>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>>>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>>> Problem in if (!init_gl_handler(gl_handler))
>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>> __call__
>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>> File
>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>>>> WindowPo pup.py", line 2768, in resize
>>>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>>>> File
>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.debug/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/analysis/
>>>> WindowPo pup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>>>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>>>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this is more useful.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:14 +0000, Wayne Boucher wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> That could be one of a couple of things (unfortunately: that
>>>>> error message
>>>>> will have to be expanded). So the only real way to find out is
>>>>> to go into
>>>>> the C code and put some debug statements in and then re-compile.
>>>>>
>>>>> So in ccpnmr1.0/c/memops/global/gl_handler.c in the function
>>>>> new_gl_handler() there are a few early return statements (in
>>>>> the next
>>>>> release there will be a new one). Put a "printf" statement in
>>>>> to each
>>>>> one. So for example, the first one would become:
>>>>>
>>>>> visual = glXChooseVisual(display, DefaultScreen(display),
>>>>> dblBuf);
>>>>> if (!visual)
>>>>> {
>>>>> printf("could not find visual\n");
>>>>> return NULL;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Then re-compile (with a "make" in the ccpnmr1.0/c directory,
>>>>> not the
>>>>> global directory) and try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, you might want to stick in the following above that
>>>>> visual check
>>>>> (this will be in the next release):
>>>>>
>>>>> if (!glXQueryExtension(display, &dummy, &dummy))
>>>>> {
>>>>> printf("GLX extension not supported\n");
>>>>> return NULL; /* check that OpenGL's GLX extension
>>>>> supported */
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> with
>>>>>
>>>>> int dummy;
>>>>>
>>>>> defined at the top of the function. My (first) guess is that
>>>>> maybe the
>>>>> GLX is not set up somewhere in the /etc config file, that query
>>>>> command
>>>>> would trap that. Alternatively it's possible the last argument to
>>>>> glXCreateContext is wrong (in the next release this will be
>>>>> settable at
>>>>> run time but currently it is only settable at compile time).
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that if this initialisation fails you are toast, hence the
>>>>> later
>>>>> error messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Dr Andy Herbert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently needed to change the graphics card in my linux box
>>>>>> from an
>>>>>> NVidia Geforce class to an NVidia quadro 4 type. When using
>>>>>> openGL
>>>>>> graphics with the bundled mesa lib analysis spits out the
>>>>>> following
>>>>>> error message when opening a window:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPo pup.py", line 2768, in resize
>>>>>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPo pup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>>>>>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>>>>>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPo pup.py", line 2768, in resize
>>>>>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPo pup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>>>>>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>>>>>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPo pup.py", line 2768, in resize
>>>>>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPo pup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>>>>>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>>>>>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and the following when moving the cursor on the new window (which
>>>>>> doesn't show any spectra):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2814, in motion
>>>>>> w = canvas.canvas_width
>>>>>> AttributeError: WindowCanvas instance has no attribute
>>>>>> 'canvas_width'
>>>>>> Exception in Tkinter callback
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in
>>>>>> __call__
>>>>>> return self.func(*args)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/memops/gui/
>>>>>> ScrolledWindow.py", line 1333, in leave
>>>>>> self.leave_func(event)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2925, in leave
>>>>>> self.parent.endCrosshair()
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/AnalysisPopup.py", line 317, in endCrosshair
>>>>>> popup.endCrosshair()
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2959, in endCrosshair
>>>>>> self.endCanvasCrosshair(self.scrolled_window.canvases[j][i])
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2932, in endCanvasCrosshair
>>>>>> self.setupWidgetHandler(canvas, isCanvas=True)
>>>>>> File
>>>>>> "/usr/local/ccpnmr.1.0.8/ccpnmr/ccpnmr1.0/python/ccpnmr/
>>>>>> analysis/WindowPopup.py", line 2494, in setupWidgetHandler
>>>>>> widget.handler = self.handlerClass(widget)
>>>>>> GlHandler.error: allocating Gl_handler object
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This doesn't happen when I use the NVidia hardware accelerated
>>>>>> graphics
>>>>>> drivers, however then I still get a version of the random
>>>>>> crashing
>>>>>> reported earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr Andy Herbert
>>>>>> Department of Chemistry
>>>>>> University of Edinburgh
>>>>>> West Mains Road
>>>>>> Edinburgh
>>>>>> UK
>>>>>> EH9 3JJ
>>>>>> Tel: +44 (0)131 650 4704 or 650 7372
>>>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Andy Herbert
>>>> Department of Chemistry
>>>> University of Edinburgh
>>>> West Mains Road
>>>> Edinburgh
>>>> UK
>>>> EH9 3JJ
>>>> Tel: +44 (0)131 650 4704 or 650 7372
>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>
> --
> Dr Andy Herbert
> Department of Chemistry
> University of Edinburgh
> West Mains Road
> Edinburgh
> UK
> EH9 3JJ
> Tel: +44 (0)131 650 4704 or 650 7372
> Email: [log in to unmask]
