Dear BUGS friends, I received some replies to my "index out of range". Thanks to the replies (really thank you all!), I was able to determine that the problem was that the length of my adj (adjacency) vector did not agree with the num (counts of adjacencies) vector. However, I now receive the following error on the bottom of the window when I load the 'inits': "adjacency matrix for normal CAR b[1] must be symmetric". I originally used Arcview sw (ISTAT official shapefile) and then imported the geographic file into Geobugs by Maps2winbugs 0.11. I used Geobugs to calculate the adj matrix (please, let me know if there is some better sw to calculate adj matrix) and then I also used a crude macro in SAS to check the symmetry of the matrix (some errors were found). The matrix should be symmetric and I can't understand where is the lack. Here my model and adj data: model { for (i in 1 : N) { O[i] ~ dpois(mu[i]) log(mu[i]) <- log(E[i]) + alpha + beta * depriv[i] + b[i] + h[i] RR[i] <- exp(alpha + beta * depriv[i] + b[i] + h[i]) # Area-specific relative risk (for maps) h[i] ~ dnorm(0, tau.h) # Unstructured random effects } # CAR prior distribution for spatial random effects: b[1:N] ~ car.normal(adj[], weights[], num[], tau.b) for(k in 1:sumNumNeigh) {weights[k] <- 1} # Other priors: alpha ~ dflat() beta ~ dnorm(0.0, 1.0E-5) tau.b ~ dgamma(0.5, 0.0005) sigma.b <- sqrt(1 / tau.b) tau.h ~ dgamma(0.5, 0.0005) sigma.h <- sqrt(1 / tau.h)} #.......... adj = c(18, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 25, 13, 8, 5, 1, 5, 4, 1, 11, 10, 9, 5, 4, 3, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1, 58, 53, 47, 36, 22, 17, 3, 33, 30, 29, 21, 15, 13, 10, 15, 13, 10, 9, 7, 5, 24, 21, 10, 41, 40, 32, 31, 24, 12, 48, 42, 41, 28, 23, 12, 42, 35, 32, 22, 12, 3, 47, 37, 36, 35, 23, 17, 3, 47, 42, 36, 23, 22, 80, 76, 59, 52, 39, 25, 18, 8, 39, 33, 29, 19, 13, 80, 77, 76, 60, 52, 38, 49, 45, 33, 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399, 393, 374, 359, 324, 308, 303, 299, 282, 269, 252, 224, 223, 222, 181, 144, 69, 685, 681, 677, 645, 612, 691, 688, 685, 682, 680, 679, 677, 662, 645, 698, 696, 693, 684, 678, 672, 620, 697, 687, 683, 665, 662, 697, 695, 694, 690, 689, 686, 674, 665, 634, 633, 625, 604, 602, 601, 600, 594, 588, 586, 581, 580, 575, 571, 563, 560, 556, 555, 537, 530, 519, 516, 492, 485, 479, 466, 462, 455, 444, 423, 400, 399, 395, 83, 562, 554, 612, 581, 489, 83, 679, 650, 645, 581, 374, 656, 650, 648, 645, 633, 625, 612, 563, 422, 374, 83, 644, 641, 626, 620, 617, 616, 595, 593, 585, 579, 577, 296, 485, 483, 477, 469, 466, 455, 450, 445, 442, 440, 433, 425, 423, 333, 235, 67, 66, 61, 58, 46, 44, 37, 23, 22, 17, 12, 10, 7, 4, 1, 74, 646, 644, 637, 635, 631, 618, 599, 593, 582), sumNumNeigh = 4370) Thanks, Marco ARPAM Dipartimento di Ancona Servizio di Epidemiologia Ambientale Via Ruggeri, 3N - 60100 Ancona - Italy Direct line +39 071 2132784 Mobile +39 347 7943415 Fax +39 071 2132731 Mailto: [log in 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