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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Merci Jim pour toutes ces précisions. Chartres fut très tôt dans la visée des rois de Bretagne, Nominoë (mort en 851 au départ d'une marche sur cette ville ...) et Erispoë. Alain Barbe Torte (+ 952) épousa une soeur de Thibaut le Tricheur comte de Chartres. Fuyant les Normands, les moines bretons (surtout du Nord de la Bretagne, c.a.d. Dol, Saint-Malo, Tréguier) ont certainement déposé leurs précieuses reliques dans la cathédrale chartraine. Une colonie de bretons s'installa à Chartres, que nous décrit un pasage des "Miracles de Notre-Dame" (XIIIe s.) : "A Chartres avoit une gent Qui Chartres aiment par costume; Tot ne geisent il pas sus plume; Si sont il gent de grant proesce; A Chartres ont leur forteresse, Cliouse des fosez Sainte Foi; Vers Dieu et sa mere ont grant foi Et d'une rue ont la baillie Qui a non la Bretonnerie: Ce sont Bretons, né de Breteigne, De Seint Mallo portent l'enseigne ..." [Sources : Lucien MERLET, Une colonie de Bretons à Chartres, dans Revue de Bretagne, avril 1892] ps : je n'ai pas souvenir que st Piat ait un culte en Bretagne. jl deuffic [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bugslag" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] CHARTRES Saint-Piat medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The figures in the six lancets of the east window in the St Piat Chapel are: St Turiaf, St Thecla, St Piat, St Tugdual, an unidentifiable bishop saint, and another unidentifiable bishop saint. I have tried to make a case for these six figures referring to the "treasury" of relics that once stood in the axial arcade of the sanctuary in Chartres Cathedral. This consisted of a raised platform, reached by spiral stairs in the flanking bays, with a pyramid of six compartments, each of which contained a reliquary. All of the identifiable saints are mentioned in this location in the early treasury inventories, and the unidentifiable bishops were probably early bishops of Chartres, whose relics are recorded in the same place, probably St Soleine and St Bethaire. The presence of Breton saints is notable, not only St Tugdual (or however one spells it), but St Turiaf, as well, a bishop of Dol. These apparently came to Chartres during the Norman invasions, as did the relics of St Piat. Although the latter eventually became confused with the more famous St Piat, up in Belgium, he was apparently a completely separate saint who also hailed from Bretagne. > what you want to look at is his later work on the glass, _Les vitraux de la > cathédrale de Chartres / histoire et description par Y. Delaporte > reproductions par É. Houvet._ Chartres: É. Houvet, 1926. xx, 532 p., ill. > ; and atlas. 3 v. 212 plates Delaporte's article on the St Piat chapel glass is still the most definitive work on this glass. Rather frustratingly, he did not include it in his 1926 monograph. The French committee of the Corpus Vitrearum is currently, I believe, working on this glass, and there should be more good studies appearing shortly. Cheers, Jim Bugslag PS. My own work on this was briefly published as "Entre espace pictural et architectural. La fenetre est de la chapelle Saint-Piat a la cathedrale de Chartres," in Representations architecturales dans les vitraux, Dossier de la Commission Royale des Monuments, Sites et Fouilles, 9 (Liege, 2002), pp. 85-94. ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html