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Grand story, Frank. Thanks. Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Parker" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: Re: "so you want to become a writer?" > Dear Judy, > > I think everyone here understands "If they don't holler, it ain't workin." > And as Lawrence stated, we respect the space you are passing through having > passed that way ourselves to one degree or another. Whatever a person's > entry there is more to come. I am reminded of something I witnessed many > years ago: > > My son (then 16) and I were in line for a corn dog at the Monterey Bay Blues > Festival one year. The gentleman in front of us wore a dashing fedora, > pinstriped suit and flashed some gold teeth when he smiled and asked my > long-haired, leather jacketed son, "Are you a musician?" > "Yes, I play guitar," my son replied. > "What kind of music do you play?" the gentleman inquired. > "Speed metal!" my son jumped. > "Oh, don't worry, son," the gentleman responded with a golden grin, "you'll > slow down." > The gentleman was John Lee Hooker. > > Best, > Frank > > *************************** > Frank Parker > [log in to unmask] > http://frankshome.org > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "judy prince" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:00 AM > Subject: Re: "so you want to become a writer?" > > > Lawrence, you mean you don't understand the meaning of: "If they don't > holler, it ain't workin"? > > Well, then, try it out a few times. I've found it endlessly applicable. > You can paraphrase it, certainly, but I like it just the way it is. > Actually, that's prolly because I made it up. > > Work it, Lawrence, work it! > > Best, again, > > Judy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lawrence Upton" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: "so you want to become a writer?" > > > > Dear Judy > > > > I dont understand that > > > > As a principle (axiom?) I doubt it > > > > as an applied axiom (principle?) I don't understand it > > > > I'm not sure what youre saying > > > > I *think, certainly without further stimulus, my position is that I can > > think of nothing worthwhile to say about Bukowski > > > > I am surprised by the endorsement; but recall that I was in that space - > so > > I am drawing no conclusions about your endorsement beyond saying Do look > > again > > > > I began to doubt it many years ago when there was a big section in Second > > Aeon headed _Buk_ > > > > fade in Peggy Lee, _Is that all there is?_ > > > > a thought experiment fade in I find endlessly applicable > > > > all best > > > > L > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "judy prince" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:37 PM > > Subject: Re: "so you want to become a writer?" > > > > > >> Lawrence, > >> > >> I have come to believe this: "If they don't holler, it ain't workin." > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Judy > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Lawrence Upton" <[log in to unmask]> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:28 AM > >> Subject: Re: "so you want to become a writer?" > >> > >> > >> > But Judy > >> > > >> > *This is dull and boring and pretentious, and he is consumed with > >> > self-regard at least - "and if you have been chosen" > >> > > >> > Tell me Mr Bukowski, how ,long have you had this stuff bursting out of > >> > your > >> > mind, mouth, heart and gut? > >> > > >> > a rocket out of the soul? > >> > > >> > madness, suicide and murder are pointers - romantic phallacy > >> > > >> > and the individual words might have been improved if he had sat still > at > >> > the > >> > keyboard and worked at it > >> > > >> > sorry, but i am more than unimpressed by Mr B now > >> > > >> > l > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "judy prince" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:18 PM > >> > Subject: "so you want to become a writer?" > >> > > >> > > >> > so you want to become a writer? > >> > by Charles Bukowski > >> > > >> > > > >