In message <001301c41c07$34ebbd70$b8b068d5@ntlworld>, ianwelton <[log in to unmask]> writes >In support of that statement see Roland Perrys' comment 05 April 2004 at >13:14 > It's called an "Identification Card". <cough> In the USA the population already accept that they need ID cards for lots of different things. Some that I can immediately think of: To prove you are old enough to buy alcohol (yes, compulsory in many places even if you are clearly well over 21!). To pick up your own child from school before closing time. To board a domestic airplane (few Americans have passports). To use a cheque (there are no such things as cheque guarantee cards). ...and so on. Given that most Americans have a driving licence, the remainder need something else. What they've done is use the Driving Licence infrastructure, and the same levels of proof, but without the driving test. The resulting card isn't called a driving licence, but an ID card. I believe the Conservatives were promoting a similar scheme when they were last in power. So far, I don't think Labour has decided whether to base their ID card on the Driving Licence or the Passport infrastructures, but the latter seems more likely as the driving (sic) seems to be coming from the Home Office (and to a certain extent the USA recently wanting aliens to have a biometric passport has rather helpfully dropped into their lap). ps In terms of intrusion by foreign regimes, I'm rather more exercised by those that require hotels to grab your passport overnight (or longer) and send the details to the local police. There are also Commission buildings in Brussels that require your passport or ID card as a "deposit" at the reception desk, in exchange for a visitors pass. -- Roland Perry ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^