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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Well, ideally is probably not quite the word I would use. My point originally was that medieval artists in the 13th century would not paint a Franciscan habit in warm brown, if the color was in fact a "dirty gray" which seems to be the agreed upon hue in this discussion. (Indeed, looking over some slides of the Assisi cathedral "Giotto School cycle" dirty-gray is a description one could certainly use of the habits there depicted. My point was simply that the artists, particularly if associated with the order, would use a more or less accurate color because o the importance of the habit to the pride and identity of the order. I have noticed, along this line, that medieval and Ren depictions of Carmelite habits do attempt to reproduce the extraordinary "cream" color of their mantles, rather than simply using a flat white. jw -----Original Message----- From: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Tom Izbicki Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:32 AM To: John Wickstrom Subject: Re: Franciscan habit color - grey or brown medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Probably ideally. Tom Izbicki At 03:31 PM 2/26/2003 -0800, you wrote: >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > > My impression is that medieval and Ren. artists are quite >careful to > > represent the religious habit accurnately, particuarly when >the artist is a > > member of the community whose member(s) are being depicted. > >But realistically or ideally? Franciscans may have worn a range >of kinda-brown habits. The artist, desiring the beholder to >readily identify his subjects, will paint all the habits a >uniform brown, just as he has saints carry around the ojbects >with which they are associated, so they don't have to be >labeled. > >Al Magary > >********************************************************************** >To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >to: [log in to unmask] >To send a message to the list, address it to: >[log in to unmask] >To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >to: [log in to unmask] >In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >[log in to unmask] >For further information, visit our web site: >http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html Thomas M. Izbicki Collection Development Coordinator Eisenhower Library Johns Hopkins University 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Telephone: 410-516-7173 Fax: 410-516-8399 ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html